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Need cycle advice...

Considering I already did three cycles and last one was also a Deca (400mg) / Test. En. (500 mg) one... No orals last time...

14 weeks cycle using Deca Durabolin and Testosterone Enanthate.


Week 01-04 :
Deca 600mg / Test. En. 600mg / Dianabol 40mg (daily)
Proviron 50mg (daily) / Nolva 20mg (daily) / AIFM (5 pumps daily)
Liv. 52 3x3 tabs (daily)

Week 05-06 :
Deca 600mg / Test. Enanthate 600mg
Proviron 50mg (daily) / Nolva 20mg (daily) / AIFM (4 pumps daily)
Liv.52 3x3 tabs (daily)

Week 07-12 :
Deca 600mg / Test. Enanthate 600mg
Proviron 50mg (daily) / Nolva 20mg (daily) / AIFM (4 pumps daily)
Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)

Week 13 :
Deca 600mg / Test. Enanthate 600mg
Proviron 50mg (daily) / Nolva 20mg (daily) / AIFM (4 pumps daily)
HCG 500iu (daily)
Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)

Week 14 :
Test. Enanthate 600mg
Proviron 50mg (daily) / Nolva 20mg (daily) / AIFM (4 pumps daily)
HCG 500iu (daily)
Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)

Week 15 :
Proviron 50mg (daily) / Nolva 20mg (daily) / AIFM (4 pumps daily)
Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)

Week 16-19 :
PCT (see below)

Week 20-21 :

Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)


Starting PCT 2 weeks after last Test. injection.

PCT :

Day 1 : Clomid 200mg / Nolva 60mg / AIFM (2 pumps daily) / Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)
Days 2-14 : Clomid 100mg / Nolva 40mg / AIFM (2 pumps daily) / Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)
Days 15-21 : Clomid 50mg / Nolva 40mg / AIFM (2 pumps daily) / Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)
Days 22-28 : Nolva 20mg / AIFM (2 pumps daily) / Milk Thistle 1.5g (daily)


Thanks in advance...
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Re: Need cycle advice...

Hi mate, Drop the Deca back down to 400mg ew and keep the test at 600mg but also run the test at least 2 weeks after you have stopped the deca otherwise there might be a bigger risk of you suffering from deca dick ,ive suffered from it in the past and beleive me its no fun :(.

Its also written in stone that you never take nolva with any androgenic substance (deca) as it will increase the chances of gyno ,I take it your using it as an AI? Try something like Anastrozole.

PCT ,there's no need to start the clomid at such a high dosage ,its increasing the chance of bad sides .ie, anxiety ,vision problems etc. You can acheive the same results from taking 50mg ed from start to finish. Also run the hcg for a couple of weeks after last inj still taking your AI and start your clomid 4-5 days after last inj of hcg and run it for 4 weeks at 50mg ed.

Just my 2 cents mate.

Good luck with cycle
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Hi mate, Drop the Deca back down to 400mg ew and keep the test at 600mg but also run the test at least 2 weeks after you have stopped the deca otherwise there might be a bigger risk of you suffering from deca dick ,ive suffered from it in the past and beleive me its no fun :(.

Its also written in stone that you never take nolva with any androgenic substance (deca) as it will increase the chances of gyno ,I take it your using it as an AI? Try something like Anastrozole.

PCT ,there's no need to start the clomid at such a high dosage ,its increasing the chance of bad sides .ie, anxiety ,vision problems etc. You can acheive the same results from taking 50mg ed from start to finish. Also run the hcg for a couple of weeks after last inj still taking your AI and start your clomid 4-5 days after last inj of hcg and run it for 4 weeks at 50mg ed.

Just my 2 cents mate.

Good luck with cycle
Well I'm using AIFM as an AI in fact... I added more the AI for the orals side...

Just using Nolva to help prevent gyno (as my brother & father are prone to it)...

Heard mixed things about this deca + Nolva combo giving another type of gyno (the one giving milk)... Already used it in the past and got no problems... So really dunno...

Anyone can add something about this nolva+deca thing ? Should I drop it and stick to AIFM alone ?


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Re: Need cycle advice...

im using nolva with deca and test enath for gyno as i do not have an AI but i find it definitly helps.
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