supercell

After sitting down and thinking about what cycles I have done over the last few years, I realised I have not really done many different meds, infact I have really only stuck with a couple.

These are the ones I have not tried and include:-

Sustenon
Equipoise
Anapolon
Test cypionate
Testex
Primobolan
NNP
MST

to name just a few.

I have just started 250mgs of British Sustenon (for the first time) every 3rd day after running it at once a week for a few weeks. I have also added 20mgs of oral winstrol in last week.

I cant believe how full I am becoming with sus and think I may be missing out on other meds, or combinations of, in order to make the best gains.
The difference in sus to enanthate in my book is fairly noticeable, altho the inj pain is fairly pronounced after.

I pride myself on my relaxed non aggressive personality but sus has made me a little more 'touchy' which has esp helped in the gym when training.
I also seem to be holding less water with it than the enanthate I have used in the past.

With it I am running 25mgs of proviron to keep the water at bay. Arimidex I feel is not needed at this dose.

So what I am asking for (sounding like a real novice here) is some advice on what cycle people would suggest for me in my off season next year. I have 4-5kgs to play with in my weight class so I can afford to pack on a few lbs but wouldn't want to be waterlogged and bloated.

Just so you know, most orals seem to bloat me and make me lose my appetite (mainly anavar and high dose winstrol) The 20mgs of winstrol I am doing at the moment is perfect with no bloat and I'm still always hungry. I am also not afraid of frequent pinning, altho the less the better!

I am also a believer in not hitting much over 1000-1500mgs a week and would prefer 750-1000mgs really.

As most people know my diet is 100% spot on but my knowledge of AAS and what combos to do, is fairly limited, so all advice is very welcome.

Thanks in advance.

J

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Wow giving Supercell advice LOL - NPP & Prop is great stuff IMO

Robsta

Cyp is my fav test of them all J. I seem to hold less water than any other on cyp....

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maybe 600 mg cyp (3ml) and 400 Equipoise (2ml) would be a nice stack. My last cycle was similar and i really enjoyed it.

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Tinytom

I've always liked NPP and Omnadren. Very good results at low doses.

Adding Tren Hex to that mix also produces awesome results.

I ran a OxyTest and MT combo with the NPP/Omandren last year and gained about 3-4lbs just of that course I think.

I dont like orals either but Methyl MST is awesome.

Actually FCUK what am I thinking..... James you are big enough you dont need any more size or hardness

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I am liking the sound of Sustenon, NPP and MST. I am also thinking about the equipoise too somewhere in there.

So NPP is a fast acting deca? I guess its progesterone based and would need a test in there to keep libido up?

I have spoken to a number of people about MST and all that find orals hard to take find they are OK with MST for some reason. This is a derivitive of trenbolone isn't it?

So would it be fair to say a 16 weeker could look like this:-

Weeks 1-14 500mgs Sustenon 500mgs EW
Weeks 1-8 400mgs Equipoise EW
Weeks 1-3 100mgs Test prop EOD (front loaded)
Weeks 7-14 400mgs NPP EW
Weeks 10-14 100mgs MST ED
Weeks 14-16 100mgs Test prop EOD (whilst sustenon drops away)

Weeks 1-16 25-50mgs of proviron daily (Anti E)

Find that proviron works for me without nolva or adex as dont suffer from gyno etc.

Doses would therefore be hanging around the 1000mg mark for injectables but would be up to 1600mg with the intro of MST.

How does this sound?

Please change if you think necessary. I dont know what dose of NPP is normally used but was just working off a moderate Deca dose.

Thanks guys

J

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Sod the Equipoise mate.

400mg of NPP p/w is fine.

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british sustanon is very good but im feeling the pain too, do your legs it feels like a hammer hit you in the side quad

i think i read you didnt want to use tren again this time but this would make a better placement than eq in that cycle but you dont need loads to grow so sus npp would be plenty for someone whos freaky like you bruv

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Yep, I totally agree.

NPP is a very nice compound, 400-600mg per week, more than that does not seem to do any more, results wise.

I get no sides from that or deca, but some who do gets sides from deca find NPP to be fine, even though it is the same drug just a different ester.

I would not run it with out test, but then IMO, I'd not run anything with out test.

MST is very good, only tiny down side was it did make me a bit moody, like tren does, but if your laid back that is not an issue.

It is not derived from trenbolone but was made to mimic the effects of Methytrienolone before it became available, it is also orally available and no where near as toxic as taking Mtren orally.

Some test with that would make a fantastic cycle.

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supercell

Thankyou guys. All taken on board.

At the mo just running Sus every 3rd day with 20mgs of oral winstrol ED and the results are fantastic. Only down side is that Sus is making me a little moody and I have never been moody on cycle. However the results are excellent and there was me thinking enanthate was good!!

Cheers

J

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jjb1

thats weird cause poeple state 'test is test' but obviously people do react different

i stated i thought i held less water on sus and more strength mg for mg up to say enan but that maybe just me

moods i think are the same ive chilled out alot over 2 years and its showing on cycle imo

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EQ is overrated, i never got much from it.
I too dont get on well with deca but the NPP i used once was very good and no bloat at all, clears the system fast upon cessation.
I would say test and tren or test and NPP would be very good with something like oxytest pre training if necessary to give more aggressive/focus in the gym and improve strength.