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Ok, just started first cycle of D-Bol. Am taking 4x10 tabs (Danabol blue hearts), spread throughout day. Every 2nd day, Tamoxifen 20mg. PCT will be Chlomid.
Am also taking 1500mg Milk Thistle each day.

Have got diet sorted for some time & just started new routine a few weeks ago, so all set. Will post pics & stats tomorrow.

Have a couple of questions.

1. Should I be taking Tamoxifen every 2nd day & if so, is the amount adequate?
2. Is there any difference in taking the Tamoxifen at night or morning?

Any other views or suggestions appreciated.

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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

because you do not know how your body will react to D/bol as in if you will get gyno then i suggest you use 20mg of Nolva ed splitting 10mg in the morning and 10mg at night.
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

TBH I wouldnt take the nolva unless adverse symptoms started appearing. If they do then take it... jmho though...
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

Thanks for the responses. So should I just stay off Tamoxifen unless I notice any of the usual symptoms & use as part of PCT? 6 days since started course & no gyno symptoms are showing.

Weighed myself just before starting course & weighed in at 210lbs. Am 6'4" and 35yrs old. Typical day's food:

Breakfast:
1 large bowl of porridge
1 bannana
1 protein shake
Mid Morning:
Tuna Roll (half tin)
Bannana
Lunch:
Protein Shake
Tuna & Pasta Salad
Snack:
Tuna Roll (half tin)
Evening Meal:
Protein Shake
Chicken/Steak/Fish
Potatoes/Pasta
Veg
Snack:
Tuna Roll (half tin)
Supplements:
Creatine
Amino Acid Tabs
Milk Thistle (1500mg)

I train 3 times per week, with chest, shoulders & triceps day one, back, forearms & biceps day two, with legs/calfs on day 3. Abs are also done each training day. I do all the core excercises; deadlift, squats & bench as well as some more compounds & a couple of isolators.
These are done as 3 sets of 12 reps or to failure.

Have seen a 5kg gain in bench press & am feeling stronger in myself when training - more aggression. No adverse signs apart from slight headaches in evenings which are disappearing.

If any more detail is needed, please ask. Thanks for any advice; appreciated.
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

First glance you need more food mate, you will gain on dbol prety muhc regardless but it will be mainly water, give your body the stuff it needs to grow - food,food,food
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

Hi mate, you're relying pretty heavily on tuna there ;)

There's not many calories in tuna, pretty much just protein, plus half a tin isn't a massive amount of protein...

Looks like you could do with getting some eggs, oily fish, nuts etc into your diet for some decent healthy fats, too
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

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Breakfast:
1 large bowl of porridge
1 bannana
1 protein shake - Some eggs would be ideal if you can stomach them after oats
Mid Morning:
Tuna Roll (half tin) - replace with a chicken breast sandwich + 1 boiled egg
Bannana
Lunch:
Protein Shake - Why?
Tuna & Pasta Salad - Why not just eat more tuna? Leave the shake out. Add some kind of veg ideally
Snack:
Tuna Roll (half tin) - Try and get a proper meal - like chicken and rice
Evening Meal:
Protein Shake - Why have a shake?
Chicken/Steak/Fish - Fine
Potatoes/Pasta - Fine - Although I'd prefer to see rice
Veg - Plenty of dark green veg
Snack:
Tuna Roll (half tin) - Man, I guess you like tuna sandwiches? Why not have cottage cheese or scrambled eggs - or *Shudders* a shake with peanut butter in it
Supplements:
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Amino Acid Tabs
Milk Thistle (1500mg)
Also - when do you train? I can't see any PWO nutrition in there.
I'm sure you've heard it before - but why are you thinking about gear when your diet isn't as good as it should be - IMO.
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

Excellent advice - makes sense, cheers lads. I do substitute chicken breast & mackerel for tuna, but will take advide on board. Did snack on cashews, but salted. Have cut salted out due to what i'm taking just now & water levels.

Thanks for info....taking on board.
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

Nice to see a sensible response for a change rather than a tantrum.

Mackerel would be a perfect addition as would almonds or any nuts really. Health food shops do a good selection of none salted etc...nuts.
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Also - when do you train? I can't see any PWO nutrition in there.
I'm sure you've heard it before - but why are you thinking about gear when your diet isn't as good as it should be - IMO.
Training would be before evening meal, thats why I take a protein shake with this for PWO. Always try to get a bowl of porridge in about an hour before training. Thanks for advice, thats why I'm here.
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Cool, good stuff What's your routine like?
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

[quote=invisiblekid;324458]Nice to see a sensible response for a change rather than a tantrum.

lol! Not my style - I'm here for advice & you guys have a wealth of it.
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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

If you can get a plate of white fish and white rice/potato down you quickly after training then there is no need for a PWO shake. But if you are going longer than say 30-45mins I'd seriously look at a shake straight after training.

Either protein and simple carbs (waxy maize starch for example) or some prefer carbs such as oats or palatinose. Experiment.
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Cool, good stuff What's your routine like?
Mondays:
Flat bench press (barbell)
Incline bench (dumbell)
Incline Fly's (dumbell)

Shoulder press
Upright rowing
Deltoid raises

Tricep dips
French tricep curl

Wednesdays:
Deadlifts
Bent Over rowing
Shrugs

Dumbell curls
Hammer curls

Forearms curls
Another forearm excercise I don't know name of(!)

Fridays:
Squats
Hack squats
Leg extensions
Calf raises

Always do abs at end of each session.

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Re: 1st D-Bol Cycle

Personally mate, I would drop the bicep and forearm work, most people grow well without any direct arm workouts, I know I'm one of them

I'd also probably drop the rows from Monday, too.

Just my 2p.
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