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Old 31-10-2007, 04:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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[quote=13stonetarget;324471]Personally mate, I would drop the bicep and forearm work, most people grow well without any direct arm workouts, I know I'm one of them

Actually used to do barbell curls & never gained on bi's really. Changed to what I am doing & seen a marked increase over past few months. Will keep this in mind if things go 'stale', or may try to mess things up a bit.

It's worth adding that I keep my form as strict as possible & always under a controlled manner. Find I get a really good pump with exaggerated (slow) reps with good form rather than banging on the weight regardless. One of the reasons I train at home in garage I've set up.

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Old 31-10-2007, 04:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Fair play, everyone reacts differently

Good luck with your cycle mate!
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Cheers; will post & keep updated with what happens. One thing that I have noticed is how keen I am to get into gym & start pumping....
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Old 31-10-2007, 11:50 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Cheers; will post & keep updated with what happens. One thing that I have noticed is how keen I am to get into gym & start pumping....
yeah but what about the weights
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Il keep an eye on this thread will be good to see the gains you keep.

Get some pics up mate.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:42 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Have attached 2 pics taken on night I started course.

Had some aching/cramp in ankles this evening for about an hour. Water retention? Also, anyone got an answer for previous question about Tamoxifen; advisable to take 20mg every second day or use when/if any signs of gyno appear?

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First off, Hi and good luck on your 1st cycle.
Short cycle, sensible dose, imo id take the nolva only if my nips started getting sore. I may have missed it but did you mention how long the cycle would be?
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I may have missed it but did you mention how long the cycle would be?
Hi Mars & thanks. Planning a six week cycle, but reading a few posts about this maybe being a bit long?
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6wks is fine for a 1st cycle. See how you go, if sides get too bad lower the dose.
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Cheers, will stick with the 6 weeks. Have also heard using just Tamoxifen is ok for PCT rather than Chlomid as easier on the liver. I realise it's a very personal thing due to the way the individual body reacts, but was wondering if it's ok to use just Tamoxifen or play safe & use Chlomid as well?
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Yep as I mentioned personally I would take the nolva/tamox only if symptoms began to appear... I also like using nolva/tamox for pct, I found I came back very well on them and my body seemed to like them better than clomid... I only used novla but you could use both...
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Yep as I mentioned personally I would take the nolva/tamox only if symptoms began to appear... I also like using nolva/tamox for pct, I found I came back very well on them and my body seemed to like them better than clomid... I only used novla but you could use both...
Cheers Phantom - think I'll just take the Nolva with Chlomid on hand. What sort of dosage would you take for a 40mg p day, 6 week cycle?
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for pct... 60mg first day, 40 a day for the next 4 or 5 days and then 20mg for the rest of two to 3 weeks depending on the size and length of cycle... I found this served me well...
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