5 and omnedron is good stuff
Hey guys need some advice i cant decided what to do
which will be a best choice for results and try no to suppress my self too much
got few options
1) 500 sust pharma 12 weeks + last 6 weeks winstrol 100mg a day
2) 500mg sust 12 weeks + 300 mg tren e 10 weeks - my least favorite as ill be shut down for at least 14 weeks before pct
3)ttm every other day ( 240 mg prop 240 mg tren ace 240 mg mast p/w for 8 weeks ) + 4ml of test prop on top for 8 weeks then pct - like the sound of that : in and out and pct
4)600mg prop + 400mg tren ace for 8 weeks, drop prop to 400 mg for another week, last 4 weeks add 100mg winny - like the sound of that : in and out and pct, probably my favorite
5) 12 weeks of sust 500mg + tren ace at 300-400 mg per week starting from 4th + 100 mg winny for last 6 weeks ?
6 ) you suggest ?
p.s sus ive got is Omnadren and my hands have been etching to try it out, meant to be the bollox
my diet is very clean and low carbs and cal
my aim to loose much as possible fat while gaining some muscle and shaping up
training 5 days a week, cardio 4 days a week, 2 days 30 min after work out, 2 days first thing am empty stomach for 30-45 mins
my biggest concern is shutting down, ive just spend 8 months recovering from long deca+test cycle, my level arent 100 % back to normal but they working, test is mid range at 14/27 and fsh and lh are functioning and responding, dont want to wait any more lol but same time dont want to completly shut myself down
so was thinking of running hcg/clomid on cycle ? worth doing it ?
my favorite option is number 4 with 1000ui hcg per week from week two, then 3 days after last prop jab start clomid plus tamoxifen
also would there be any point running clomid on cycle with hcg as hcg suppress your lh ? or just run clomind on cycle ?
as i said im looking for happy medium good gains + not too much suppression
Any input would be more then welcome
Last edited by SWIPS; 09-11-2013 at 11:39 PM.
5 and omnedron is good stuff
cheers mate for reply
had this omnadren in my draw for 8 months and been dying to pin it lol
so number 5 for gains ok, what about trying to not supress your lh that much on cycle ?
find your optimum dose for HCG and hope for the best, thats why i B&C. No recovery issues and it works our way cheaper.
As your cycles become more powerful and intense so should your PCT to match and PCT meds are WAY less cost effective then AAS but essential if you don't B&C
did b&c for 10 months, never again, hard recovery after, my pituitary gland did not want to respond for like 6 months, was not fun
done power pct and nothing, so waited it out and it just started to respond
Any other opinions ? Specially interested in trying to maintain lh and fsh
any one lol ? no ?
If you are concerned about shutdown I would just do option 1. The omnadren stuff is very good and lot can be done on 500mg of test
There's nothing you can do for lh while on cycle, clomid won't help but it apparently can help fsh.
If you run 1000iu hcg pw and hit the clomid and Nolva once the gear is cleared there shouldn't be too many issues.
ok thanks guys, i will reconsider it :S
i hate recovery time
you better of doing 8 weeks fast acting, quick recovery + time off and then back on, and so on
but what do i know ? do what you think is best, what works for me may or will not work for others
I remember years ago when i didnt know anything i took sust and deca but only for 6 weeks (didnt get on with the pinning) and just decided to stop, i felt it really messed me up in such a short amount of time. I had no pct though i just come off. Been reading alot and put that down to the deca and wont touch it again myself. Took months for me to recover and gave up training because of it.