TaintedSoul

Evening men,

The urge to start another course is eating at me. I'm not loking to just jab but to effectively use what I have to the max.

Currently in my gym bag of tricks I have left over.

18ml's of Sust 250mg/ml
10ml's of Deca 250mg/ml
10ml's of TestCyp 250mg/ml
About +-50 Danabol 10mg tabs

Now I am wanting to do two short courses (6on, 6off, 6on, then long rest) and add in some HGH? Will need to get more of the above though.

Looking to start in about 2 to 3 weeks?

Current weight 98kg's and about 17% bodyfat. Was 95kg's and 23% bodyfat before previous course! Looking to put on as much muscle possible?

Any thoughts on using the above with HGH? I'm sure a few of you here have done something simliar?


Cheers.

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BigDS

not used growth yet but have researched it as i intend to, but honestly i'd want to be at a lower body fat % than 17 before i did, with the price of it i'd be wanting to see the results asap and not just hope they were coming along under fat.

how tall are you and just out of curiosity why the 6 on 6 off method? why not blast for a 12 weeker and then come off for a long period?

miami797

Well, if you wanted to do a test/deca with a dbol kickstart then you're in good shape. What kind of doses are you looking on taking? You may be able to get away with not buying anymore test and getting more deca or else try a different anabolic for the second six weeks.

A fair amount of people have great results with the short burst cycles. They usually take larger doses on short courses than normal-long courses.

HGH is going to work with anything or by itself.

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TaintedSoul

I'm 6"2 and generally when on a course eat around 4000 calories or more and 300+grams of protein a day. Did not bother to mention as I assumed most here sort of knew my height. if I drop another 5% body fat and put about 6 kg's like last course then I am smiling!

Why 6on, 6off, cause my last course was 10 weeks. 5 weeks 500Sust+500deca, and last 5 weeks 500TestCyp with a 2 week dbol kickstart and finish.

I feel things start to plateu after 7/8 weeks for me on steroids and 6 weeks on,off,on will probably yeild better results as it's shorter bursts. Then have a long 3 months recovery afterwards at least. The new goal is 110kg's with 10% to 12% bodyfat. But that's roughly about 19kg's of muscle I need to find!! :( Hence the wanting to throw in HGH to pick things up even more.

I generally like to keep to sust, deca, dbol and test. Though the test seems to make me grow hair from all over!!! :(

I will probably want to do something like the following

weeks 1 - 2 - 50mg Dbol/day
weeks 1 - 6 - 250mg Sust Sun Evening, Wed Morning,Thurs Evening
Weeks 1 - 6 - 250mg Deca Sun Evening, Wed Morning
weeks 1 - 6 - HCG if needed for the little guys!
Weeks 6 - 12 - PCT
Rinse, Repeat, then have a nice long break.....

What I am looking for is advice on shooting the HGH with the above plan? This is a whole new area for me and although I dont see a point in ever messing with slin as I dont plan to get up on a stage. I want to try out HGH???

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TaintedSoul

Busy digesting this great thread from Pscarb.

HGH - Methods I have used http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/muscle-re...have-used.html

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miami797

I would raise your test and deca doses is you're only taking a six week course. Atleast to 500mg/wk of test and about 400mg/wk of deca. I don't think deca should be taken at the same dose as test. Always run it a bit lower.

6 weeks isn't long enough to get much use from small doses. The HGH is going to be a huge boost, but it's still only six weeks of test and anabolics.

If you want to go low dose I think you would get more of a benefit from 12 weeks on rather than two short cycles.

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shazzyuk

Surely running deca for 6 weeks is pretty pointless? unless it was NPP.

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miami797

If something is going to be pointless over a short period of time, like equipoise, than it would be because of the drug it self and not so much the ester.

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TaintedSoul

If you look again you will see I said shot of deca on Sunday and wed. So that's 500mg.

Thing is my previous course was 10 weeks and I dont know if I will do more than 8 weeks. Granted I switched roids 5 weeks in and perhaps should have carried on just running Sust and Deca for 8 or 10 weeks. Was trying to get receptors to react to new stuff as they getting used to the old one?? I gained really well, burnt 5% body fat and all my lifts have gone back up to almost old time records and staying there even after course though one or two reps less.

I'm sure Pscarb was saying his courses now are only 5 or 6 weeks?

Reading Pscarbs thread on HG in muscle research section and I am thinking of taking taking HGH 2 to 3 times a week with total of 28iu's each week for 3 months or more.

Rought draft:
weeks 1 - 18 - 28iu's HGH per week taken 2 to 3 times per week
And
weeks 1 - 2 - 50mg Dbol/day
weeks 1 - 6 - 250mg Sust Sun Evening, Wed Morning,Thurs Evening (total 750mg/week)
Weeks 1 - 6 - 250mg Deca Sun Evening, Wed Morning (total 500mg/week)
weeks 1 - 6 - HCG if needed for the little guys!
Weeks 6 - 12 - PCT
Rinse and Repeat above, then
Weeks 18 - 24 - PCT and then have a nice long break.....

Thoughts on above?

miami have you used just HGH with anabolics?

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miami797

Now I see what you wrote. 750mg/wk of test and 500mg/wk of deca. That sounds much better. I only read as far as "wk 1-6 250mg Sus" and didn't read the rest.

750mg test and 500mg deca is going to be good, even for only six weeks.

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