13stonetarget

Hi all,

I've been training for a couple of years and reading the board for quite some time now and have decided to run my first cycle.

I have decided to run a 14 day on, 14 day off cycle of dbol and repeat as desired. I may turn it into a 14 day, 21 off. I'm going to use 20mg each day, first thing in the morning. I'm going to have some nolva on hand just in case. I'm also going to use creatine & trib' in the off weeks and use milk thistle on all days. ZMA will be taken every night, too.

I'll be training 3 days per week, concentrating on compound moves.

My diet is good and varied.

Is there any advice people who have run this cycle can give me?

Thanks in advance guys! Excited and nervous!

13stonetarget

Oh and if you hadn't guessed by my name, my target it to hit 13 stone and drop my bodyfat so I can see my abs properly (I can see the top one slightly). I'm at 11 3/4 stone.

megatron

You will need to split the dose so you are taking something 3 times a day... With the short half-life of dbol it needs to be run like thisfor max gains. Apart from that it seems like you have read up on the topic, good luck.

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gym rat

i agree, dbol only has a half life of around 2hours, in my opinion u should take 30mg eachday e.g. two tabs for breakie, lunch and dinner

13stonetarget

Thanks, I'll keep a diary and let you guys know how it goes

13stonetarget

Thanks, I'd like to try and stick to 20mg to start off with and see how I go, but if you reckon splitting it up is best I can certainly do that.

Anyone else got any thoughts?

fits

Why not start with 10mg or even 5? if your in no particular rush. Sam69 got results on even 5mg. the lower you start the more room there is for improvement when things stall. I would also suggest that you take it first thing in the am upon waking as the reason for the small dose is for only 14 days is so that your body doesn't shut down (or at least to any noticeable degree) and therefore you shouldn't need PCT.

If you split the dose then i think the feeling is that your body may notice that your putting sythetic test into your body and it may shut you down more than if you take the dose in one go first thing in the am..............

if your goign to go for 14x14 then try it with as little as possible, if you dont see results then change.

gym rat

splitting it up would be far more beneficial mate, as it will keep ur receptures more active throughout the day rather than just for a few hours, best of luck with ur cycle, and let us know how u get on

13stonetarget

Hi Fits,

I'm not in a massive rush, no, if you think it's worth it then I'll try 10mg to start of with for the first 2 week cycle and see how it goes

Anyone else?

fits

by the way im tryin gTbol at 10mg right now. I have noticed a definate strength increase (placebo effect maybe) and a pump. I think the effects will be more noticeable with Dbol :beer1:

ONE SMART COOKIE

DO NOT SPLIT THE DOSE UP.....

Take your 10mgs first thing in a morning to coinside with natural peak levels...

If I remeber correctly the half life of dbol is 5+hrs...

13stonetarget

Ok so the votes are stacking up for taking the whole lot first thing in the AM.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

(Thanks for this by the way, first cycle feels like a very big deal for me and I appreciate people taking the time to help make sure I don't screw it up..)

ONE SMART COOKIE

Have you read both these 2 topics?

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...-6th-june.html

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...0s-cycles.html

Also how old are you?

What is your training & diet like?

Why have you decided to run a cycle?

Bulldozer

Yeah listen to cookie bro. He knows his stuff and helped sam69 out a lot when he did the 14/14 cycle.

I am no gear guru, far bloody from it. But i thought the idea of taking the low dose dbol was to try and trick your body in a sense, take the dose early morning and it kinda piggy backs your natural test production. So you should (maybe) avoid shutdown on the 14 on/ 14 off cycle.

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13stonetarget

Yes thanks, I found those really interesting, I read through both of them at least twice I think!

I'm nearly 26.

My training works something like this:

Monday - Chest:

Flat bench 5x5
Incline DB press 5x5
Flies 5x5

Wednesday - Back

Barbell rows 5x5
Chins / pullups 5x5
Single arm DB rows 5x5
Deads 5x5

Friday - Legs

Squats (wide and close leg) 5x5
Lunges 5x5
Sumo squat 5x5

Following Monday - Shoulders

Military press 5x5
DB shoulder press 5x5
Front raise 5x5
Shrugs 5x5

I throw in ab stuff from time to time, try to avoid working things like triceps, bi's etc too close (e.g. chest then shoulders) by changing the order a bit.

As for food, an average day could look something like:

Meal 1:

4 scrambled eggs on wholemeal toast with OJ
or
Oats with a protein shake

Meal 2:

Yoghurt, fruit and some nuts
or
Protein bar or shake

Meal 3:

Tuna & jacket potatoe
or
Chicken salad
or
Tinned oily fish on wholemeal toast with salad

Meal 4:

Peanut butter sandwich
or
Shake & fruit
etc

Meal 5:

Meat (steak or chicken or lamb etc) & veg
or
Fajhitas
or something else without too much carbs in

Meal 6:

Casein shake before bed or peanut butter on toast

Something like that.

Honest answer? Because I can achieve my goals more quickly. I'm not focussed on competing or becoming massive like some of you fellas, but I'd like to accelerate my gains. I don't find it easy to put on weight so would like to try a small series of cycles which I believe if done properly should minimise potential health risks (short, weak cycle) while helping speed up the process.

Thanks again... waiting for my diet, training and thoughts to be pulled apart