i used GH/IGF but no steroids at all....
in your 11 months off did you use any other meds pscarb?
was there a great difference in your physique and strength whilst you were of steroids and just using igf and gh?
is there a chance that you could not recover at all?
Too true and my mentality.
You speak wise words Jimmy.
Once I get my head around the fact that I am small, weak and fat, I'm fine but after 5 months off going back on is like nothing on earth....You literally can see yourself growing daily.
I stay on for around 25-30 weeks total in any given year due to my contest schedule, then the rest of the time is off.
Even then it would take a good 18-24 months to get everything back to normal. Coming off for 8 weeks is fine to give the liver, kidneys etc a break but the endocrine system will take months and months.
Dont kid yourself that you've recovered, cos you will be talking sh1te.
every person i know has done this has EXACTLY the same experiences, inc myself
going back on again is like the first cycle you ever did...the gains are enormous
when the body gets used to a drug...it eventually needs more....in the same way...the longer the 'lay off' any drug used, the better it works when administration is resumed
a good example is alcohol
go out drinking loads and you get a tollerance
stop drinking for a few months and you get smashed on a few shandys
so long cycles (4 months plus) can/may require higher doses at the end of the cycle in comparrison to the beginning....but after a long lay off one can gain like a weed in the rain, with a relatively low/moderate dose...and then some!!!
i will atest to this as this is what happened to me when i took 11months off....
dose anyone bridge between cycles with a hrt dose of of test?
if you use any test between cycles then you do not come off HRT doses work for HRT patients not Young bodybuilders as the dose will still effect the HPTA....bridging is a word that was thought up by those who did not want to come off steroids...
pscarb - just out of interest whats your base line testostrone levels natrualy?
the last time i had my bloods carried out the test was 25.6 that was after 10 weeks off cycle, i have not had them done again yet still to close to my last course.
I wonder if the gains from a year of 8 months on 4 months off would equal that of a year of short courses.
I might have to try the first method to see.
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Any more views on long cycles