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Old 27-04-2004, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GH Contest Prep Question

Not for me - this is for a guy! weighing 13 stone contest condition (maybe more like 13m,7)

On a 16 week run in to a contest what would you guys recommend as a gh dose

I was thinking of 5 days a week 4ius in the morning to keep it nice and cheap -
or 6 iu as a split dose.

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Old 27-04-2004, 10:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I love GH but dont love the price. GH can make you hypothyroid and hyperglycemic so guys take T3 for the hypothyroid and insuline for the hyperglycemia.
I never did any of that but did take 2 IU's every day for about 5 months strait. I lost 4" on my waist and no weight loss.
In the beginning I took 1 iu morning and 1 iu evening.
At the end I took both IU's before bed and had some great dreams and slept nice. Some will say that taking it before bed is a waste as you produce most of your natural GH during REM sleep. I have a friend that has a daughter with a condition that stunted her growth. She took 2 IU's during the day and had no growth (hight). The Dr. told her to take the GH just before bed and she grew 6" in 6 months. I thought I got better fat loss taking it during the day but I slept much better taking before bed.
HGH can be site specefic for fat loss so if he has handelbars then inject there, if he carries the weight in the belly in front then inject there.
Personally I love the stuff but spent thousands of dollars last year on it and did not see alot of bang for my buck.
Some guys take it for connective tissue strengthing and on a cycle when the muscles get really strong really fast this can be a plus for promoting injury. Amounts you might want to PM biker on that one.
I thought the Elli Lillie Humatrop worked the best for me but the Saizan was cheaper.
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Old 27-04-2004, 10:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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biker is the man for this, i like the way he does it on night of training and morning after only.. but he'll fill you in.. so to speak.. ;)
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Old 28-04-2004, 09:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Im running it 4iu ED (2iu night after training, 2iu Morning after)

Im only really testing it, as i only have 50iu`s but IM LOVING IT SO FAR!

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Old 28-04-2004, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I was going to say - 3 ius am and 3 ius at 3pm and nothing at bed time so it doesnt interefere with natural GH release at that time (which is when its greatest.)
He is running t3 anyway (if he listens to mr )
Nice to see low doses being used here - hubster wants him to use 6 ius am and 6 at 3pm - heh - thinks he is made of money
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Old 28-04-2004, 10:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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tbh if he's getting ready for a show I would take 3iu just before bed on training nights and 3iu in the early hours of the next morning (say between 4 - 6 am)

Not only does your body produce most of it's GH during the night I also believe it uses most of it during the night also! I've tried it in several different styles and I have to say i've seen the most benefit from night time shots.

Anyhow it's not like you produce that much naturally to worry about it.
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Old 28-04-2004, 10:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Can someone tell me what HGH is primarily used for, what effects it has and how it is used?

Have only read that HGH and insulin can be the most dangerous drugs to use in bodybuilding, are they classed as steroids?
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Old 28-04-2004, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks Biker.
3Iu before bed and 3 Ius upon waking sounds good, poor guy has enough on his plate without getting up eary for a shot - or is the 6am thing that important - as its likely to 7am instead.
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Old 28-04-2004, 01:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, insuline suppresses HGH at night. So a big carb dinner will shut down the petituary gland. So 3 IU's at night is way more than you would normally have floatine around in your system. That would work well. I got jaw lock just over 2 IU's. I did go over 2 IU's if I took it at night and noticed I slept like a rock with the most wildest dreams. Not nightmares but really cool dreams. Beings sleep is really important at the end I opted for the night time shots.
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if he wanted to get up between 4 or 6 in the morning and take a shot and go back to bed it would be ideal but it won't be the end of the world if he waits until he gets up at 7am
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Old 28-04-2004, 06:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've researched hgh for many months before I started using it and even now,months into a cycle I'm still learning stuff.Which ever forum you go on,whether British or American there are many different opinions on dosage and time of injections.

I have tried higher doses of 7iu's x 2 per day and the only difference I saw was some jaw ache and an empty wallet.Biker's theory makes a lot of sense.Yes,by taking nightly injections you lose about .5-1.0 of natural hgh that your body would produce while asleep,but you would double or treble this amount.Also judging by the amount of hgh your body produces in the first couple of hrs of sleep,this is the time your body knows how to use it best which should give better results.Just my 2 pennies worth!
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Taking the HGH at night seems to work best (for me)

- Well you sleep deeper
- Although this may interfere with your own production, one gets the feeling that this is not so. I mean, it looks as if the results are better
- CLA is a must to take with HGH, like 9 gram a day. This gives you the dryer look, since some small water retention is there (for me). If your prostate can handle it, include some CLA
- i prefer 7/7, easy to do. You calculate what you want to take per week and divide this over 7 days
- Jintropin is great, but no better than Anke Bio
- CLA again. Consider this. If you take lets say 6 iu/day, one can try to take only 4iu/day, include the CLA and see if your results are the same. This saves you some money. If your prostate bothers you after a week or 2, then drop the CLA and up the iu's. One can lower the iu's again after a week or 2 and restart including the CLA. All this when taking HGH without roids.

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Yeah I always take it 3iu's in the morning and 3iu's about an hour before bed, Badgirl if I was using it for cutting then I would be more inclined to use it ED as opposed to 5 days a week, even if it meant taking a slighty lower dose.

I just started GH again on wednesday so hopefully I can say goodbye to my waistline soon
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Just read today about a low carb diet and GH.
GH can make you hyperglycemic and beings that carbs will reduce this they were getting some great fat loss. I will type the whole article up later.
The article is in Muscular Development page 89
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On another note If our contract is approved by our membership (Union) at work (Boeing) then we will get a $2500.00 signing bonus and I will pick up a 6 month supply of HGH to go with my cycle.
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