MUSCLEPT

Im about to start hcg injections. Was thinking 750ui (eod) till the end of my course. The thing is i dont understand how to measure it in the injections (ml wise) In the pack, ive got 1500ui hcg crystals in an amp and a 1ml amp of sterile water but how do i split it?!!

I have been experiencing lost of libido and test shrinkage (NOT NICE!).:gun:. my cycle has been:
4 weeks of sustanon (250ml every 5 days), but now changed to:
1-4 Test Prop (1ml eod)
1-4 Tren75 (0.75m eod)
3-6 Winstrol (1 amp eod)
1-6 HCG + 20mg of Novaldex
then 1 week later PCT


thanks guys

MUSCLEPT

Is anyone there that can help me on this thread??!!:ranger:

andye

you need to get some bac water as the solution wont keep with the suplied solvent.

mix your powder with 1ml of bac water and split it up into 10 slin needles.

so if you had 5000 ius of hcg mixed with 1ml of bac water, you would have 500 ius in each 0.1ml of solution. you then keep the slin needles in the fridge till needed.

i think 750 ius eod maybe a little too much but maybe on of the other lads will be able to tell you better

nick500

250 eod is fine

preload 250 in slin pins and store in the fridge.

1ml of bac water per 1000IU of HCG, so 250IU would be ||25|| on the slin pin

MUSCLEPT

Someone else (other site) told me:
You inject the 1ml water into the lypholised white thing !!

You then draw half a ml out of the mixture and you will have 750iu.

When you inject the water the white lump of hcg will instantly mix itself with the water m8.

Is this true.. The HCG ive got is ive got 1500ui hcg crystals in an amp and a 1ml amp of sterile water.. How many ml is 500ui or 750ui from this 1500ui? btw have been suffering from lost of libido and test shrink thats why thought higher dose

hackskii

If you got some small nuts, split that dose in half, put half a ml in one syrenge and shoot that then half a ml in another syrenge and put that in the fridge, shoot EOD for 8 shots,
Start this all together with the clomid and nolva.

4 weeks and nut shrinkage tells me you might be harder to recover than most like me.
Start 3 days after last prop shot.
250iu wont do much at this point nick.

You can use the whole 1500iu shot EOD if you like. But just see if 750 does the job if not then you will need to just use the whole amp, not a big deal really but you will have to have nolva there in with it.
HCG aromitizes very heavily.

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SportDr

The maths is simple, your vial contains 1500iu HCG, regardless of how much water you add it will always be 1500ius no more or less.

So if you add 1ml of water that is then 1500iu per ml, therfore 1/2 ml will be 750ius. This is what you need to inject EOD for 8 shots if you follow Hacks advice.

If you add 2ml of water then you have 750ius per ml as you have just diluted it in comparison to the previous example. So 1/2 ml of this will be half of 750 which is 375ius.

If you add 3ml of water you still have 1500ius, but now you have 500ius per ml. Therefore 1/2 ml will be a more diluted 250ius of HCG.

hth

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MUSCLEPT

Hack, i'm only just on the second week of the tren and test. Was thinking of doing the HCG (EOD) or even E3D until the end of the cycle along with the tamoxifeno 20mg per day. WHAT DO YOU THINK??

hackskii

Well, I think that would be just fine but why the tamox during the cycle?
Gyno?
I am not too crazy on running tamox throughout the cycle, I prefere an AI over nolva, for a few reasons, one big one is lowering IGF-1, another is nolva does act as an estrogen to some tissues, prostate being one of them.
If you are not gyno prone then I would drop the tamox and run small doses of HCG.
HCG and aromitization are dose dependant.

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MUSCLEPT

The Tamoxifeno it's cause of the HCG. Ive read that 20mg of Tamoxif along with the HCG would b enough to prevent the gyno..
do u think with 750UI E3D OF HCG throught the cycle doesnt need the tamoxifeno?

hackskii

Wow, hang on 750iu throughout the cycle?
That is too much, max would be 500iu ED, or E3D, many get away with 350iu.
750 would force you to use tamox, that kind of dosage is for the guy that didnt do it during and trying to bring them back to life after a cycle.

You will use just enough to get the job done.

One thing nolvadx does do though is keep the testicles from becomming less sensitive to HCG, but that is usually bigger doses for longer times.

Hell, 500 twice a week would work fine, or should anyway.

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MUSCLEPT

:gun: lol...oh GOD!
ok so.. help me out on this one then! if i need to do only 500ui e3d how many ml should i inject from a 1500ui amp mix. I have IM seringes, and about 4 boxes of 1500ui hcg crystals ..

hackskii

OK, it is quite easy as sports doc suggested, it has nothing to do with the solvent/bacteriostatic water, and everything to do with the powder.

When I do the 5000iu pregnyl, I mix it with just 1ml of liquid, So, for me to do 500iu that would be 1/10 a ml, or 100 on the slin needle.
HCG can be done sub-Q with little problems what so ever, infact this is preferred, for less scar tissue and infections, etc.
But IM is ok too.

So, if you have 1500iu hcg and you mix all the solution in the other amp (not powder but liquid), that would be 1ml, 500iu would be 1/3 of a ml.

For my gear I use 3ml syrenges and there is a mark that is .5 or half a ml, at this point that would be 750iu, but you want to shoot 500iu that would be the third line on the pin.
But something to consider, not only are the regular IM needles harder to measure, some of the HCG will get lost in the longer/bigger needle and in the head of the barrel.
If you can do sub-q, it is easier to measure and less will be lost in the head due to size of needle and barrel, and as well as above.

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MUSCLEPT

Right on thanks buddy

MUSCLEPT

OK so im doing 500ui EOD during the cycle and have 3 more weeks to go..

*** Question is... if i already have test shrink shouldnt i raise quantities a bit more? something like 750ui EOD and then lower it towards the end (if they get back to normal size)????:confused: