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Old 28-03-2007, 06:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So in theory Hacks, any med with a high amount of BA could give a cough? Such as my NPP if it had a high amount?

I read this somewhere too and apparently the Avioli (sp) in the lung have a reaction to the BA.
Yes, in theory, I dont see why there would be any diffrence.

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Old 28-03-2007, 06:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yes, in theory, I dont see why there would be any diffrence.

That post of mine above came building the perfect beast by Author L Ria.
Mine was from google lol

I just dont get it from anything else but Nandrolone....the bit I read also claimed the darker the compound ie strength, the more likely the cough...which then leads away from the BA.....

I'll try and find it again...
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Old 28-03-2007, 06:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The so called 'tren cough' or 'Fina cough' is well known amongst many tren users. Some users seem to get the cough following every injection; others never or extremely rarely will get the cough. Usually it is manifested upon injection, with a tightness in the chest, and a metallic taste in the back of the mouth, followed by an uncontrollable violent cough which can be quite frightening, as anyone who has experienced it will tell you, whether it's for the first time or not. There have been some very elaborate theories about the reasons for getting the cough from trenbolone, some of which have had mechanisms involving molecules that only trenbolone affects resulting in bronchioconstriction, etc. However, the fact remains that many users have also experienced the same cough from steroids such as equipoise and testosterone cypionate. In addition, these mechanisms that are proposed are highly unlikely to occur immediately upon injection, as that is too fast a timescale for the proposed mechanism. Thus it must be the result of something entering the blood stream and traveling to the lungs for the cough to be manifested that quickly.

This leads us onto the next theory suggested by many which is that trenbolone is produced by many UGLs, and as such is made with higher percentages of Benzyl Alcohol (BA) than pharma grade products are, and it is the alcohol that is causing the reaction. The only problem with this theory is that trenbolone is made by most UGLs with the same BA percentages as things such as testosterone propionate, and nandrolone decanoate. If it was purely the BA concentration, than we would expect to see the cough with these other products as well, which we do not. Thus, as we have eliminated the oil, solvents and carriers, it leaves us with the Trenbolone product itself as the potential culprit.

One thing that you notice about trenbolone is that it is often a golden-brown / rust colour when in oil solution. If the hormone powder is refined to greater than 99.5% purity or so, then the colour of trenbolone in solution actually gives a very light golden colour, much like other testosterone products; however, refining the hormone to this level of purity is extremely difficult. This is why there is colour variation from batch to batch with different underground labs; something as small as 0.1% purity can affect the colour of the final product.

As mentioned above when discussing kidney effects of trenbolone, the oxidised trenbolone is a rust colour – much like the colour seen of trenbolone in oil solution. What you also notice with steroids such as Equipoise and to a lesser degree, testosterone cypionate, is that these steroids too are hard to very highly refine and often a browny-rust colour, more so than products such as testosterone propionate, etc. It is very likely then that these oxidised particles get into the blood stream upon injection and this causes some sort of anaphylactic (allergic) reaction in the lungs as the particles react with the alveoli, perhaps. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that the darker the trenbolone is the more likely one is to get a cough (personal and general experience). The best way to try and avoid this is to firstly inject very slowly and not move the needle around after aspirating, and also mixing the trenbolone with another product such as test prop.
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Old 29-03-2007, 01:50 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Tren Cough

Ive been told its due to the alcholo used in it and not the actuall tren ingrediants. different people will use different means, ive also heard people say the original tren (para) by negma france still caused the cough. And heard people say it did not. Its a strange one .
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Old 29-03-2007, 02:24 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Had my first tren cough on monday, lasted about ten minutes, didn't like it one bit....due to do tren again tomorrow and not looking forward to it....
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Old 29-03-2007, 02:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Tren Cough

Never tried it myself, that is one I will give amiss.
I had a friend explode on the fena/tren, never in my life have I seen a guy get so strong and big so fast.
Twards the end of the cycle he looked like there was something medically wrong with him, he looked like he had some serious high blood pressure problems.
Someone told me he had to go off due to health issues.
Rumor has it he shrunk back down to normal size.

I am a tiny bit agressive by nature and do suffer from moderate blood pressure issues and I always shut down hard, tren is not one gear I would consider, neither anadrol.

Hey rob, did you taste metal after your shot?
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Old 29-03-2007, 02:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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No mate, just really ticky, tight throat with an annoying sore cough....only lasted about 10 minutes and I've shot loads of tren....
Paul G said something about shooting in the glutes/quads, well this was the 1st time I shot tren into my delts so maybe he's onto something there.....I'll be putting in quads tomorrow for sure....
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oh yeah, went quite dizzy also
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Old 29-03-2007, 02:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Tren Cough

It's a nightmare.

I've tried injecting really slowly and still got it.
To me it's like I have inhales some gassy fumes in really cold weather that makes you cough as soon as they hit the back of the throat.
I can still taste it just thinking about it now.

Never happened with anything but tren.
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i've put tren into delts before, among other sites, and had nothing... luck of the draw imo
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I have had it twice in the last 2 weeks. But i seem to get it under control within 3-4 mins.

My recovery advise is;
When you are having a bout try and breath in through your nose and out through the mouth. This means that you all the air you recieve is clean and any you expel is "Dirty" (Thereby ridding your lungs faster).

I am no doctor but like i say it does seem to reduce the timeline of the cough.
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i've put tren into delts before, among other sites, and had nothing... luck of the draw imo

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I have had tren cough but funnily enough I only ever got it off tren ace, never off the eth which is stronger mg for mg.

Anyone else ever find this?
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how would tren affect somebody with a lung disease such as asthma?
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I have asthma exercise enduced and dust/hayfever/cold weather etc
Tren just worked with me as it would anyone else in my case.
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