miami797

i had a friend run just a EQ and TREN cycle in the past and got great results...not bulk but solid solid muscle.....

i posted my next plan for my cycle coming up and its basicly some test, some eq, a tad of d-bols and PCT...i was thinking of trying tren out for the first time..wouold it be better to run it with the EQ or just stick to on or the other?

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Jock

Gotta run with Test mate or you run a big risk of fina d1ck........

Test Prop, Tren, Winny <---------- GREAT CYCLE!

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miami797

never said i wasnt running test..i said i had a friend in the past do taht....im running
wk1-10 250/enth+50mg/prop eod
wk1-8 EQ 400mg/wk
wk 1-2(or3 havent decided) 40mg dbol

i came up on some tren so i havent figured out if i want to use it in this cycle or not...and if i do should i run it with the eq or jsut the tren

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Oh right my mistake, sorry.....

You've got to run EQ for 12 weeks minimum, it is a very slow acting steroid and most users don't get any benefit until after about 8 weeks of use, you could always frontload though.

Unless you plan on running the EQ for a lot longer, I would drop it and throw in some Tren @ 75mg EOD.

Best of luck, Jock

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Greyphantom

8-12 weeks min for eq I would say but thats jmho...

add the tren... it certainly helps with strength and lean gains... combined with the eq it should give great results...

So I would run the test and eq at the same length of time and add the tren.. and go for 3 weeks for the dbol... you could run the tren from week 4 and go 6 weeks 75mg eod... that would then take advantage of the bol kicking things off and the tren adding the boost for the end of the cycle and for hardening up... again jmho...

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miami797

dont know where you heard about 12 minimum on the eq, but thats complete crap....yes it is a type os anabolic that should be used a bit longer but from personal experience you can notice what it does to your body after 2 weeks if used right....so 8 weeks is fine with eq...

ive never used it for more then 8 weeks and have ALWAYS been happy with it......if its the type of anabolic that takes 12 to notice then how come you have to take it eod????

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Miami, not a flame bro but you are very aggressive in your response to posts, I've noticed it a few times but I haven't said anything. We are just trying to help bro, don't take everything so personally. Take everyones opinions constructively

Most people will tell you to run EQ for at least 12 weeks or not to bother, if you've found otherwise then thats great, go with that.

I've never heard of EQ being injected every other day.

I took this from the drug profile section at steroidology:

Equipoise is not a rapid mass builder, but will provide a slow but steady gain of strength and quality muscle mass. The most positive effects of this drug are seen when it is used for longer cycles, usually lasting at least 10 weeks in length. The muscle gained should not be the smooth bulk seen with androgens, but instead a very defined and solid look. Since water bloat is not contributing greatly to the diameter of the muscle, much of the size gained on a cycle of Equipoise can be retained after the drug has been discontinued. It is interesting to note that structurally Equipoise and the classic bulking drug Dianabol are almost identical. In the case of Equipoise the compound uses a l7beta ester (undecylenate), while Dianabol is 17 alpha alkylated. Aside from that difference, the drugs are basically the same.

Best of luck, Jock

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miami797

maybe i said eod but i usually go every 3rd day anyway.....you can read all you want from steroidology of any other place you feel...but the fact is is that experience is what is key....ive used eq EVERY cycle ive ever been on and never once felt the need to go beyond 8 weeks..

maybe you feel i'm a bit aggressive but thats just me...sometimes the best way to get through to people is to be assertive...if you feel i've been flaming people you've got it wrong.....you dont see sport coaches or personal trainers handing out treats and saying 'please do this love'...they say 'hurry the f*ck up and do it already, stop being a sissy'....if you dont feel thats the way to be treated then i'm sorry for you....

and you'd be surprised at the thanks i get from some people on this board that cant or just dont say what they really want to say...but im not in that position so i say it like i mean it.....

i'll leave it at that...since the only point i had to make to you was that not all those articles you read are 100% right....and just reading articles and not doing for yourself doesnt make you an expert....

either way thanks for your input..

and if you want the proof from actual veterinary medical books about equipoise and taking it atleast every 3 days id be happy to show you...or else you can even look at that article you yourself posted on the board a while ago...

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miami797

and its not a rapid mass builder since it shouldnt be used to build mass in the first place...it best purpose is for appitite stimulation, solid gains, and vascularity.....so maybe if you are looking to get big with it take it for 12 weeks or a year or whatever you want....but i dont take it for mass so i dont need it for that long

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Jock

Bro, CHILL OUT!

I have no problem with assertive, or to-the-point people, I deal with them all the time. I admire your strong personality and I believe your knowledge and experience is a valuable asset to the board.

But please can I ask you politley no to be so confrontational. I'm taking your comments on the chin here, a lot of people would overreact and start a flame war, I don't want or need that at the moment. I just don't want to see you get into another argument with someone else somewhere down the line.

As for the EQ, I have no experience of it I will concede that, but I have looked into it numerous times only to be told exactly what I advised you. I got this info off VERY respected bros on Muscletalk (Wrongun, Bigfella, Bbigman) these lads know what they're talking about and I respect their opinions 100%, just ask Panthro, Robdog, Mr T, Raven etc.

Some steroids are rated highly by some and thought of as crap by others (just look at Pete_Marshall & Tatz2003's ongoing debate about EQ) I was simply trying to help

If EQ works for you then go for it, but don't get upset because I don't agree with you.

Best of luck, Jock

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Panthro

Ok, enough! Take it to PM if you have too boys!

Miami has a no-**** attitude, although some may take it as confronatational, it isnt. So please dont take him the wrong way. (He had a hard upbringing and was beaten by his younger sister regularly. this has rendered him mentally unstable ;) )

Opinions are like ar$eholes-everyone has got one, and I dont want a bad atmosphere on the board, I want an atmosphere where everyone can voice their opinion and not get shot down for it! so this thread is locked!

In reply to your question miami, i dont think tren and eq should be run together, for similar reasons to not running deca and tren together. Personally, if i were you, id give tren a go. I think you'll like it a lot, and it will suit your requirements... mmmmm tren......

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