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Old 03-01-2007, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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VAR cycle

Hi guys

should I run milk thistle while taking ANAVAR or will it limit the effect.

It apparently works by blocking harmful substances entering the liver cells?

Shall I wait until PCT?

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Old 03-01-2007, 09:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: VAR cycle

Var is one of the milder orals to take, that said personally i would still run a low dose of milk thistle say 500-600mg ED

Wait until PCT???? I think perhaps you should research a little more

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Old 03-01-2007, 10:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: VAR cycle

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Var is one of the milder orals to take, that said personally i would still run a low dose of milk thistle say 500-600mg ED

Wait until PCT???? I think perhaps you should research a little more

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Thanks for the reply.

what would area you suggest I research more, after reading lots of fairly conflicting information I thought I would post a question.

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Old 03-01-2007, 10:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: VAR cycle

Being honest mate, it was the fact you asked if you should save the milk thistle till PCT, that made me suggest more research


What dosage do you plan on using, how long will the cycle be??

What do you hope to achieve from said cycle?
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: VAR cycle

I am hoping to achieve some good stregnth gains alonge with some lean muscle. I do not want to be huge as I am 5'7"(fairly short) and 170lbs.

looking to be leaner and stronger.

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Anavar 50mg ED Weeks 1 to 6
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 7 to 9
Milk Thistle

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Re: VAR cycle

Milk Thistle is there to help protect the liver from the harsh effects of oral steroids. I've not ever heard that it will effect gains, things like Nolva will to a certain degree.

Run your Milk Thistle from day 1 through out. Some say that the need for Milk Thistle is greatly over exagerated, but prevention is far better than cure, so be safe.
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Re: VAR cycle

that makes sense, thanks for the reply
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Re: VAR cycle

Lee i cannot see you getting much in the way of strength or muscle on only 50mg of Var ed....
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I agree, I think you will be disappointed with that cycle.
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Re: VAR cycle

Hi Pscarb, Thanks.

I may up the dosage to 80mg ed?

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Re: VAR cycle

80mg would be better but still disappointing IMO, especially considering the cost.

Why don't you do some test, even low dose, and run the var alongside it? You will be much happier with the results.
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Re: VAR cycle

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Lee i cannot see you getting much in the way of strength or muscle on only 50mg of Var ed....
I disagree, I ran 50mg anavar for my first cycle and I gained a solid 8lbs, and got some serious strength.
I was consuming 3,500 kcals a day.
I went from 179lbs to 187lbs.
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Re: VAR cycle

You will end up flat broke... ;)

You need something a bit more androgenic for to get good results from an oral only cycle.... Turnabol maybe.....

Is this your first cycle?
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Re: VAR cycle

yes it is my 1st cycle.

I wanted to get into this slowly, thats why I have researched Var and planned this as my 1st cycle.

TKD sounds like you had a good experience!
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Re: VAR cycle

Lee,

Dont think im trying to steer you away from the 'ultimate oral' but running tbol or even dbol. Is imo for this situation the perfect introduction.

Would put my neck on the line and go as far to say you 'could' gain double 8lbs posted previously


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