VAR cycle - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

LeeR · 03-01-2007, 10:50 AM

Hi guys

should I run milk thistle while taking ANAVAR or will it limit the effect.

It apparently works by blocking harmful substances entering the liver cells?

Shall I wait until PCT?

Many thanks and Happy new year.

Lee

leanman · 03-01-2007, 10:59 AM

Var is one of the milder orals to take, that said personally i would still run a low dose of milk thistle say 500-600mg ED

Wait until PCT???? I think perhaps you should research a little more

All the best

LeeR · 03-01-2007, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leanman

Var is one of the milder orals to take, that said personally i would still run a low dose of milk thistle say 500-600mg ED

Wait until PCT???? I think perhaps you should research a little more

All the best

Leanman

Thanks for the reply.

what would area you suggest I research more, after reading lots of fairly conflicting information I thought I would post a question.

Lee

leanman · 03-01-2007, 11:17 AM

Being honest mate, it was the fact you asked if you should save the milk thistle till PCT, that made me suggest more research

What dosage do you plan on using, how long will the cycle be??

What do you hope to achieve from said cycle?

LeeR · 03-01-2007, 11:35 AM

I am hoping to achieve some good stregnth gains alonge with some lean muscle. I do not want to be huge as I am 5'7"(fairly short) and 170lbs.

looking to be leaner and stronger.

cycle

Anavar 50mg ED Weeks 1 to 6
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 7 to 9
Milk Thistle

Thanks

Harry · 03-01-2007, 01:51 PM

Milk Thistle is there to help protect the liver from the harsh effects of oral steroids. I've not ever heard that it will effect gains, things like Nolva will to a certain degree.

Run your Milk Thistle from day 1 through out. Some say that the need for Milk Thistle is greatly over exagerated, but prevention is far better than cure, so be safe.

LeeR · 03-01-2007, 02:48 PM

that makes sense, thanks for the reply

**Pscarb** · 03-01-2007, 04:55 PM

Lee i cannot see you getting much in the way of strength or muscle on only 50mg of Var ed....

**big** · 03-01-2007, 05:16 PM

I agree, I think you will be disappointed with that cycle.

LeeR · 03-01-2007, 05:17 PM

Hi Pscarb, Thanks.

I may up the dosage to 80mg ed?

Lee

**big** · 03-01-2007, 05:21 PM

80mg would be better but still disappointing IMO, especially considering the cost.

Why don't you do some test, even low dose, and run the var alongside it? You will be much happier with the results.

tkd · 03-01-2007, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

Lee i cannot see you getting much in the way of strength or muscle on only 50mg of Var ed....

I disagree, I ran 50mg anavar for my first cycle and I gained a solid 8lbs, and got some serious strength.
I was consuming 3,500 kcals a day.
I went from 179lbs to 187lbs.

**Aftershock** · 03-01-2007, 05:27 PM

You will end up flat broke... ;)

You need something a bit more androgenic for to get good results from an oral only cycle.... Turnabol maybe.....

Is this your first cycle?

LeeR · 03-01-2007, 05:44 PM

yes it is my 1st cycle.

I wanted to get into this slowly, thats why I have researched Var and planned this as my 1st cycle.

TKD sounds like you had a good experience!

leanman · 03-01-2007, 06:44 PM

Lee,

Dont think im trying to steer you away from the 'ultimate oral' but running tbol or even dbol. Is imo for this situation the perfect introduction.

Would put my neck on the line and go as far to say you 'could' gain double 8lbs posted previously

Good luck whatever you decide

03-01-2007, 10:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
LeeR Track Monster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 35	VAR cycle Hi guys should I run milk thistle while taking ANAVAR or will it limit the effect. It apparently works by blocking harmful substances entering the liver cells? Shall I wait until PCT? Many thanks and Happy new year. Lee

03-01-2007, 10:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
leanman Gym Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: south-east Posts: 418	Re: VAR cycle Var is one of the milder orals to take, that said personally i would still run a low dose of milk thistle say 500-600mg ED Wait until PCT???? I think perhaps you should research a little more All the best

03-01-2007, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
leanman Gym Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: south-east Posts: 418	Re: VAR cycle Being honest mate, it was the fact you asked if you should save the milk thistle till PCT, that made me suggest more research What dosage do you plan on using, how long will the cycle be?? What do you hope to achieve from said cycle?

03-01-2007, 11:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
LeeR Track Monster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 35	Re: VAR cycle I am hoping to achieve some good stregnth gains alonge with some lean muscle. I do not want to be huge as I am 5'7"(fairly short) and 170lbs. looking to be leaner and stronger. cycle Anavar 50mg ED Weeks 1 to 6 Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 7 to 9 Milk Thistle Thanks

03-01-2007, 01:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Harry EFBB Winner Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,213	Re: VAR cycle Milk Thistle is there to help protect the liver from the harsh effects of oral steroids. I've not ever heard that it will effect gains, things like Nolva will to a certain degree. Run your Milk Thistle from day 1 through out. Some say that the need for Milk Thistle is greatly over exagerated, but prevention is far better than cure, so be safe.

03-01-2007, 02:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
LeeR Track Monster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 35	Re: VAR cycle that makes sense, thanks for the reply

03-01-2007, 04:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16,564	Re: VAR cycle Lee i cannot see you getting much in the way of strength or muscle on only 50mg of Var ed.... __________________ Do not PM or Mail me asking for a source as a BAN may offend

03-01-2007, 05:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 7,099	Re: VAR cycle I agree, I think you will be disappointed with that cycle.

03-01-2007, 05:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
LeeR Track Monster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 35	Re: VAR cycle Hi Pscarb, Thanks. I may up the dosage to 80mg ed? Lee

03-01-2007, 05:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 7,099	Re: VAR cycle 80mg would be better but still disappointing IMO, especially considering the cost. Why don't you do some test, even low dose, and run the var alongside it? You will be much happier with the results.

03-01-2007, 05:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,267	Re: VAR cycle You will end up flat broke... ;) You need something a bit more androgenic for to get good results from an oral only cycle.... Turnabol maybe..... Is this your first cycle?

03-01-2007, 05:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
LeeR Track Monster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 35	Re: VAR cycle yes it is my 1st cycle. I wanted to get into this slowly, thats why I have researched Var and planned this as my 1st cycle. TKD sounds like you had a good experience!

03-01-2007, 06:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
leanman Gym Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: south-east Posts: 418	Re: VAR cycle Lee, Dont think im trying to steer you away from the 'ultimate oral' but running tbol or even dbol. Is imo for this situation the perfect introduction. Would put my neck on the line and go as far to say you 'could' gain double 8lbs posted previously Good luck whatever you decide

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