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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to gather some thoughts on my first cycle which i am about to begin.

currently 6'1, and 79kgs. Im 21 years of age. My bench press is currently at 80kgsx2 reps. My squats are at 170kgsx2 (but i can do well over 220kgs at the right time).

My main aim on the cycle is to be able to increase my explosive power and speed, whilst also gaining some mass. Mass however is not the main importance. I have chosen to use sus 250 over other AAS because ive done quite a bit of research through these forums, and i like the idea of less water retention, and retaining the gains ive made, considering my training, diet is as spot on as it is now. I currently use protein (wpi) and bcaa for recovery. ive also started using phosphagen creatine in my diet too.


So, the cycle i am inclined to use is as follows : 500mg Each week for 6 weeks. One Ml on monday, and another on Thursday, to keep an even flow on things.

Because it is my first cycle, i really dont think it wise to go over 500mg, i think its more than a substantial amount at this time. Also, most of the feedback im gathering is leading me to believe that anything over 6 weeks is not really a gain, its more of a plateau. So that is the reason for the 6 week cycle. But id love to hear everyones comments.

I am also planning on PCT, using novaldex or an equivalent, and i am planning to do a liver detox after the cycle, to clear toxins etc.

Id love to hear from first hand experience with sus250, ive heard many good things about it, but also as of late some bad things too (injection site pains, etc)

What should i expect when i am on the cycle? ive heard that you can get really hungry in the middle of the night etc, so i might plan on a bigger intake of food than i currently have. Also, what is the average loss of size and strength when you some off the gear, considering training and diet remain consistent?

All your advice is appreciated. I thought id make myself well informed before the cycle, so thanks.

LEWIS

mate in order to grow you will have to eat more food.

you seam very strong on your lower body parts in comparisson to your upper body (bench press) , i would encourage you to reach your full potential naturally before taking the gear.

yourr diet obviousley could be better and with that you would increase in strength and size and would notice gains in size also. (you are tall and should be able to do this easilly - considering your squating is so stong - you should be used to dealing with heavier weight and i would sudjest your bench will come along nicely with correct diet)

on the steroid side - sus is a good choice for your first cycle maybie some decca could be used in conjunction with it. i dont think it makes a difference if you take it in one go or split it on a mon and fri. (not 100% on this though)

also make sure you have purchased the correct p.c.t before starting (especially if you take my advice with the decca)

im sure some of the fellas here will have some good advice for you though mate

Pscarb

well you definitely seem to have thought long and hard about this cycle which is a good thing..

your questions
your body does not suddenly think "well its been six weeks i will stop growing now" lol 8 weeks is a good length of time for a 1st cycle mate....and the only reason you would plateau is diet so make sure you are eating enough calories..

good plan but when using Sus you will have to leave the PCT until 10 days after your last jab so make sure in this time you raise the calories to make sure you don't lose too many of these gains although an alternative would be to do 6 weeks on the Sus then 2 weeks on 25mg of D/bol ed as you can start PCT the day after your last D/bol tab..

this is a loaded question as we are all different but from a cycle like this considering that you are a decently high intensity trainer and your diet is good and supp ling you with plenty of high quality Protein and Carbs

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beastrg

Pscarb mate 10 days after last sust jab till pct?? 3 weeks mate (or 18 days to be precise)

But yes 500mg sust/week with dbol for 1st 4 weeks is a good cycle

Pscarb

this is what i used to play to but found that 10 days is enough for the AAS to be weak enough in your system to allow PCT to be effective as we both know the body is not that precise and a load of things effect the body.

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big

You don't need the AAS to clear, or even be close to clearing before starting your PCT.

In fact, one of the only doctors who has spoken up on the subject of steroid use for weight trainers suggests starting PCT only a few days after your last shot - even with long acting gear like enan and sust.

The best approach is to switch to fast acting gear for the last 3 weeks of your cycle of course, and then you can start PCT immediately after this.

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beastrg

yes very true mate!

so do u find that u recover faster by starting pct 10 days after rather than say 3 weeks?

beastrg

100% agree with this..it also allows u to make use of the time between last jab of a longer ester and pct

Pscarb

yes mate i do find that starting PCT after 10 days is better than 3 weeks but i always end my cycle with fast acting gear so really don't have this problem nowadays..

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