sttheod

thanks mate!! in 2 weeks i am gonna start my 1st cycle!!rpreparing for jabbing!!

mattymerri

can you use thibulis to tryan dboost natural testosterone levels during clomid cycle?or would this just be useless? can you just use nolvadex instead of clomid?

hackskii

Trib is worthless, save your money.

Although clomid and nolva are both classed as a SERM, they both are agonists and antagonists to estrogen.
So, some might target diffrent receptors than others.
Clomid is superior in my opinion to jumpstart the pituitary.
Both seem to work better together.

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drb

Excellent post mate it's really helped on the info side.Previously i've done two courses before. first was 8 weeks of 250mg sust every 5 days and 200mg deca every 4 with nolva everyday direct from the mick hart bible. The next course was 10 weeks of sust and deca, again sust every 5 days and deca every 4 but no nolva or pct.This time though i'm thinking of running two shorter courses of 6 weeks because on the previous courses around week 7 i had an outbreak of acne on my shoulders and back and to be honest my gains started to taper,i've read from previous threads adjust your cycle to suit you.In the way of shrinkage i did have pretty severe symptoms towards the end of my courses but never had any pct.I didn't notice a crash at all just the small plums.I recoverd with no problems within a couple of weeks after the first course and after the second i started using a supp fom anabolic extreme and my balls were bigger than ever and the production of the little fellas was ample.After giving you my life story what my actual question is, if i'm doing a 6 week course of test enth and deca in relatively low dosages how do you think i should conduct pct.I have a good supply of tamoxifen but i from reading your previous posts i know you're not too keen.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jc456

hi guys..one question: After PCT does your natural testosterone production go back up to its full natural levels? say are you said we make 7mg a day. do we get back to 7 or 5 a day?

Thanks

hackskii

The timing of the start time of the PCT would reflect the clearance time of the drugs used, so nobody can answer the question if they didnt know the drugs being used.

Testosterone levels will return to your normal base values prior to the cycle.
In a few men, sometimes the levels might not bounce back to base levels, or if they do it can take up to a year.

There is no one PCT cookie cutter prodocol.

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hackskii

I wanted to drop this graph here:

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Big_Dan

What makes me laugh is, when i asked couple of mates that are taking steroids , what are they using for PCT ,
and the reply i got .................................................. .....................................





What is PCT ?

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NeilpWest

I have the same mate. I have a mate that im helping and he has a few mates i dont know that use steroids quite abit and when i told him to ask them what pct was they didnt have a clue.

Dinky_Dan

Hi all, i am new to all this ... after all this is my 1st post!

Like WOW!!! I never realised their was so much involved with PCT! Think i'd better revise my plan of action! Don't want to mess myself up!

Dan

TH&S

Have you got the pre/on cycle graphs?

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They are in here but not from the one you are requesting.
That one with LH is with guys on 250mg of test enanthate for 6 months or something.
This is one Scally did and it has pre, mid, and post cycle numbers. Quite impressive with the bodyfat and strength tests too.

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arian40

hey hackskii, nice thread,first of all, and im very new to this pct and hcg stuff, well had a few questions, i am on my second cycle right now doing 250mg enanthate ( 8 weeks ) 250mg sus ( 8weeks ) dianabol 30/40mg (6 weeks)

and 2 weeks after my cycle i will be taking

Day 1 300mg Clomid
Days 2 - 11 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Days 12 - 21 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Days 22 - 28 20mg Nolvadex

my question is, Do i need HCG ?
and i have read alot about hcg on google and posts here but all it talks about is
whats it is, and the lengh of time it should be taken, etc. etc.

i also wanted to know how you take it ? im guessing its injectables and if it is , is it intermuscular? and where is it normaly injected?

and if i dont take it, how long would it take for the nutts to come back online as its sort of small right now.

many thanks


arian

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HCG is taken during the cycle sub-Q.
Did you mean you are doing a 16 week cycle, or 500mg for 8 weeks?

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arian40

500mg for 8 weeks.
so i dont need to take HCG ?

didnt get what sub-Q is, but going to do a quick research on it now, hopefully ill find some info about it.

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