hackskii

Did you say that you normally get a crash at the end of your cycle?

You can run the HCG during the cycle to avoid testicular atrophy.

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uknumbr14

i have run a few courses over many years.didnt understand much of pct but done loads of research and read all ur posts regarding it.much happier now with it all,what i noticed with previous cycles is shrinkage towards the end of the cycle,then a few weeks after finishing a horrible feeling.no go in me at all,no labido and emotions of a woman,ha.
cheerz for the reply.much appreciated.what kind of doses would you think of hcg,clomid and nolva with that course?thanks

hackskii

Well, I dont use deca anymore due to the level of supression it tends to give me, tren either.
If you used 500iu of HCG throughout then by the end of your cycle would wont have nut shrinkage.
I suffer from that very bad.
I like the idea of keeping them working rather than bringing them back to life.
Due to the lower amounts of HCG an AI might be or might not be needed.
Something like just .5mg arimidex twice a week will keep some estrogen at bay but not compromise gains due to the effects of estrogen.
I actually find recovery easier if I use an AI during but it probably would hinder some of the gains.

Your crash at the end of the cycle is pretty much avoidable with the use of HCG.
Basicly what is happening is you have too much estrogen and not enough or very low testosterone levels.
Even if estrogen is normal, low levels of test will make you feel like crap and give you no libido.
My bro had no libido from a cycle once and not even viagra helped him.
HCG did though, within just 2 days he was getting erections and feeling normal.
I think the idea is to use just enough HCG to keep the nuts working, that would be a safe bet.
Not enough and you will still get some atrophy, too much and you will have some heavy aromitization and potentially desentisize the leydig cells.
Desentization issues can happen with too much HCG or using HCG for too long.
Nolva also protects the nuts from desintization too, which I think is caused from estrogen.

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uknumbr14

thanks for the reply.so with that dose of gear and cycle length would you recomend using hcg during.i like finishing a course and then jabbing hcg as it still gives me that feeling of being on a course,if it helps to avoid the crash though id take it during course.so id start clomid and nolva 2getha approx 3-4 weeks after course.sorry ti keep on but i want to get this bang on before starting course.thanks.

hackskii

Well, the time to start is pretty important.
Depending on the dose and the ester, this will change the start time of your PCT.
I do feel that some of the crash is associate with some kind of androgen withdrawl.

You could start PCT week 11 and run the clomid, nolva and HCG together.
But I do think that HCG during might be the way to go, this would leave more room for a less aggressive PCT.

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paulo

mate just started a wwinny only oral cycle-for a month, he going to try lean up as he puts it-he has been advised no ancils reqd? is that right-also, should he do nolva or similar as pct

uknumbr14

top man cheers.Think i will run low dose of hcg during cycle,and then the clomid and nolva at week 11.does this mean i do not take hcg at week 11,is a little amount during the cycle enough or carry on with it with the clomid and nolva.cheers.

ZAMBON

So this is your "home" Hack...id say so with 20,000 post

hackskii

If I had not known better id swear by your avatar you are kidd?

Yah, home bro, has been for almost 5 years.

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sttheod

i have a question..whats the difference beetwen clomid and nolva???arent they do almost the same job??

hackskii

For gyno yes, for jumpstarting the pituitary no.
I find nolva is not very good for me for recovery, clomid is better for me, but both work best.

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sttheod

i have an other question..if during a cycle you feel estro effects shall you use nolva??and after this when on pct nolva again??isnt it too much of nolva??

hackskii

Too much meaning you are taking nolva for too long?
I am not a big fan of nolva as an anti-estrogen, it is an agonist and antagonist to estrogen.
So, with some tissues it blocks estrogen and in others acts like an estrogen.
I do believe the prostate is one tissue that nolva acts as an estrogen on.
If I am even remotly right then id suggest this is not the way to go during.
An AI used during a cycle will keep estrogen at a management level.
Estrogen is necessary for gains or helpfull anyway, but too much is very supressive and sides can manafest.

I like Adex as it has a long half life so twice a week doses were cool with me.

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sttheod

can u tell me what is AI?? hackskii i cant find here hcg and if i use nolva DOD instead would be ok or novla will minimize the testo effects??

hackskii

AI = Aromatase Inhibitor

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