Thread: Caber with low dose Tren?

Do you get gyno?
If not no need for caber wether a high or low dose

Originally Posted by expletive

Do you get gyno?
If not no need for caber wether a high or low dose

Not sure mate, only run tren once before, 350mg enanthate but i ran Caber with it. Also worried about any problems 'getting it up'.

Caber won't sort you'd wood problems

Test could give you gyno

Tren could give you prolactin if you have gyno

If you get gyno off test keep gyno on hand. if not no need.

Originally Posted by ReRaise

Currently in week 3 Test E only cycle. (750mg with adex, hcg and prop kickstart).

I want to add Tren A at a low dose, 25mg ED shot with slin pin. After 10 weeks I'll cruise on test only, then over summer will run higher tren 400mg, with a trt dose of test...then a good PCT.

I'll definitely be using Caber on the higher dose of Caber, but at 25mg ED should I still use Caber to prevent tren sides, or would that be overkill?

Cheers

OK, why will you definitely be using caber? are you worried you are going to have milk coming from your nipples? thats what prolactin does:

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...tanding-5.html

read my post 73...

I've posted a bit about this lately.. what a load of BRO SCIENCE that people keep repeating.. read the links (a FEW times) and realise that as a progestin, tren SUPPRESSES prolactin... so why would you take caber???

On a plus side lowering prolactin will help with multiple erections (although add cialis & ya a porn star LMAO)

Thanks Ausbuilt, I'll have a read now.

Well I'm on my 6th cycle, they've all included Test. I've run adex with every cycle as I've always thought I'd rather prevent myself getting gyno than risking it and seeing if i'm prone. I got gyno twice while running dbol kickstarts, so I don't touch dbol any more.

With Caber i took it last time with the same intentions of preventing gyno, not knowing whether i was prone or not. I was also under the impression that Caber would help with any libido related problems with tren.

Thanks for the input, I'll read that link.

Aus - are you still taking Caber for nootropics/mood enhancing effect? After all your's and EB's posts I've been taking cabergoline 0.5mg twice a week...on-cycle or not

Aus I've just read the post you linked to and i feel like I've been had by bro-science! Thanks for clearing it up. So I'm not gonna run caber, will save me some money also. So that fact that i'm also on a test should mean there should be no ED problems?

Originally Posted by Conscript

Aus - are you still taking Caber for nootropics/mood enhancing effect? After all your's and EB's posts I've been taking cabergoline 0.5mg twice a week...on-cycle or not

Yes, i am for the nootropic effect, and would whether on cycle or not. My point is not that its bad, but people (mostly on a budget) are running it for the wrong reason. Fine from a nootropic perspective- but anti gyno.. no.... Nootropics are a bit of a luxury.. so are AAS etc, if you have the budget for everything, great. But, most don't and I feel bad when I read people spending hard earned £s on Caber, for the wrong reason..

Originally Posted by ReRaise

Aus I've just read the post you linked to and i feel like I've been had by bro-science! Thanks for clearing it up. So I'm not gonna run caber, will save me some money also. So that fact that i'm also on a test should mean there should be no ED problems?

Yep. Thats my point- not that caber is bad, but its is expensive, so why use it if its not going to do what you are taking it for....

Test will automatically cover you for tren/deca erection issues.. but then so would proviron (and for most people dbol).

make sure you take arimidex at 1mg EOD (E3D is no good) or if you're using aromasin, you need 25m/ED.

Glad you "got it" when it comes to prolactin... and as Xpower says, it may help the "refractory time" (i.e recovery) BETWEEN erections.. but won't give you more if you don't have DHT in your system..

Cheers Aus, I know there's always merit it what you post, I just thought you might have read something and decided that caber was not worth the risk anymore, thanks for clearing that up.

Originally Posted by ReRaise

Aus I've just read the post you linked to and i feel like I've been had by bro-science! Thanks for clearing it up.

No probs mate. I don't post on these kind of threads to show i'm smart or whatever, i just try make people think about why they take something, because so much thats said on forums is bro-science which keeps getting repeated.

I know I'm not gonna change the world, but the reason i post links to everything say is becuase a) i"m not a genius, I don't know this stuff- i read it, so can others, and b) I believe when people make statements about why something should/shouldnt be used there should be back up..

Its like with oral steroids- all because the USA government decided they where evil the media focused on oral AAS being liver damaging etc, and people keep repeating it.. until you read medical trials where they used oral AAS's to REPAIR the damaged livers of alcoholics:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12535450

ok it didnt fix their livers, but didnt make them worse... but people still bang on how dangerous orals are... just repeating bro-science..

Originally Posted by Conscript

Cheers Aus, I know there's always merit it what you post, I just thought you might have read something and decided that caber was not worth the risk anymore, thanks for clearing that up.

no probs..

Offtopic.. LOVE your Signature! LOL bastard you're gonna be wider than me.. and I don't think I could go another round.... well over the process! LOL

Aus, how much adex would you take for 500mg of test? Still 1mg per day?