Ironman

Well Im coming to the end of my super long cycle - and to tell the truth, im bored of it now and just want to get it out of the way clean out my system and start over (I know I said after this one it would be time to take some time off for a while - but im not ready for that yet lol)

I was thinking about a shorter courses for a while - maybe 4-6 weeks on 2-4 weeks off, short and intense - using fast acting gear. I feel with this longer course I keep losing sight and motivation and sometimes just rely on the gear to keep my size.

My initial thoughts for a cycle was to use tren ace, test prop, and that npp but im open to suggestion.
Im not sure at what doses - on the long acting a generally use about 2.5gr a week of meds, Im not sure if I would use the same doses on the fast acting.
My goal is get to bigger (obviously) and in better condition.

All feedback and advise wanted :-)

big pete

how about, nice and basic,

200mg prop ED
100mg tren ace ED
50-100mg oral turanabol/var/winstrol

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i like what Pete has put down but i would try the new Tren Hex over Ace from ROHM labs TinyTom is raving about it or is he just raving??

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DB

i did...

week 1&2 sust 1500mg deca 600mg
week 3-5 NPP& prop 150mg EOD of each

was awesome!!!

5 on 3 off

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Aftershock

Your biggest problem with short ethers is the volume of oil you are going to have to shoot each week. Maybe it would be better to get the blood levels up with long ethers as DB did and then ride them out with short ethers.

If you are going for size I would recommend an oxytest type product to kickstart.

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John

100mg tren hex - ( the sh1t by the way ) e3d

250mg test hept - ( ok a bit longer acting ) e3d

300mg equip - ( very happy with it ) e3d

100mg mst - ( best oral ive tried to date ) ed

80mcgs igf - ( early doors, but im fairly happy with pumps etc ) mon to fri

as i said its been 3 weeks and im now switching to shorter esters:-

100mg of either npp or winstrol - eod

100mg masteron - eod

100mg tren ace - eod

will then have 4 weeks off and go again.

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Ironman

Id like to try that but I dont have access to rohm lab gear.

Ironman

I like the sound of that :-)

Are ed shot better than eod or is it 6 and 2 3's?

John

pm,d mate.

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turanabol, gains / dose wise, i know youve said 50 - 100mg im taking it thats ed and would a 100 actually be the desired dosage ?

also would it be favoured over say something like mst ?

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Ironman

Sounds good mate - is 3 off adequate enough?

DB

well if u put in in respective....

its the same as being on for
12 weeks and have just over 7 weeks off...
16 weeks and 9.5 off
20 and 12 weeks off


so i'd say so yeah.. but if u plan to do a few of these i'd say at least once a year take a good 10 weeks off AAS feel free to bridge with IGF/slin/HGH tho of course

i was doing 5 on 3 off for a while... and cycling IGF and slin 3 weeks of each so sometimes u are on ass with slin sometimes igf... all fun and games!!

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Ironman

Sounds excellent :-)

Im looking forward to trying some shorter courses - it may inspire me to actually come off when im supposed to lol

DB

mate those 3 weeks off are so easy... with slin or IGF honestly u hardly notice a thing apart from the lack of jabs which is a godsend imo!!

if i do a long cycle tryin to have a decent off period is fukin hard

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