PAULSHEZ

I am currently on PCT (hcg clomid zinc)

After a month im going for a long basic cycle, to add slow quality gains, what would you all recommend?

I am currently 16.11 stone, holding bit of fat but not loads 34 waist.

I was thinking a test base of 750 mg. deca for joints ??????and arimidex

What do you all find is your trusted winter cycle for quality

PAULSHEZ

Come on give me some ideas

DB

ok dude what was your last cycle??

and previous cycles? makes it abit easier imo

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John

how long is long for you ?

what test , im guessing sust seeing its 750mg or are you one of these guys who likes to do half ml,s and stuff ? And i know heptalyte is 250 but theres no mention of any product other than test ?

Thats going to take roughly 3 weeks to get going are you planning on doing any orals as a front load, or something else fast acting just to get things moving ?

Are your joints bad ?lol maybe glucosamine and condroitin or some oils may help.

are you susceptible to gyno, as some estrogen is good, adex will all but kill that ?

post up some pics mate at almost 17st and pretty lean you must look good, 34 waist n all.

And ive never run a course by the season of the year sorry, as ive never been on stage, i dont have an on or off season as such, i just run when i do and dont when i dont.

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PAULSHEZ

I have been training 7 years im 27 years old.

Have no pics but i will get some up, once i feel good enough.

Ive experimented with allsorts of cycles, done SHICs up t0 2g a week. But prefer longer medium dosed cycle up to 12 weeks.

What about the below:

days 1 - 21 , 1 oxy per day (oxybolone)
week 1 - 8 = 750mg test enath, 300mg deca
week 9 - 14 = test prop eod, winny tabs 50mg per day

Will be using half adex per day (astra zenica- the proper adex)

The above is a guide may also use prima on 2nd part

Also running gh 4iu eod (have been on this 2 month already)

DB

cycle is ok mate...

i personally think oxy's are sh1te...too much water imo

i would go-

1-4 winny/var
1-10 enan 750 mg
1-9 deca 400mg
10-12 prop 150mg EOD
9-12 winny oral 50mg

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Aftershock

You cant really do far wrong with that cycle thought I would personally prefer something a bit more androgenic to kickstart, some tbol maybe?

Dont forget you hcg usage as well tho.

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PAULSHEZ

Wont the adex combat some of the water from the oxys?? thing is i have a load of oxys at home and they need using lol.

I will put the deca up to 400mg.

One drug that i cant use is tren, it really messes with my head.

I have found 750mg of test enath (norma) is a good base for me to work with, low sides and quality muscle

DB

if u have them already then u may aswell use them matey... i ust do not rate them in the slightest

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by oxy's i'm presuming u mean anadrol right?

man i fcking love em - my strength goes up so damn quick on them things and put on 20lbs in 4weeks (yes i know a lot of water too b4 u say it :p )


can i have those ones back that i gave u then

DB

LOL u could if i didnt munch them all! i had to test them out didnt i!!

yeah water weight sucks!!! u think u are ok till u **** it all out and then its depressing!!

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if u want strength and no bloat, go for Halo's! see how much ur strength increases then..:lift:

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Aftershock

Halo wil do the trick but its exceptionally harsh on the liver.

Adex will belp with bloat from the test but not form the drol as drol can act directly upon the estrogen receptor, same goes for gyno issues. With Drol an AI is useless you would need to fight it with a SERM like Nova.

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Halo.....no..........

I like the idea of the winstrol with the deca, might want to run that for the anti-progesteronic effects of winstrol (DHT).

I have never tried A-bombs and I probably never will either, I get high blood pressure on cycles and this would probably do me in. Not only that but they are pretty damn supressive on the HPTA.

i think some anavar would be awesome to front load, not very supressive either, and I have read some where it is not at all.

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