Anadrol insted of dbol - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

nottsnewbie · 20-06-2006, 06:47 PM

I was planning test e 500mg week and deca 300mg week for next cycle with 4 weeks of dbol at start, just spoke to source and cant get the dbol but can get anadrol what do you think? i know its a strong oral so abit cautious but thinking 50mg day but how long would you run it for?

BIG-UNC · 20-06-2006, 08:07 PM

dont run it longer than 6 weeks mate..infact id just do 4 weeks!

what test is it mate?

make sure you drink plenty of water and get something to protect ya liver liv-52 or milk thistle mate

nottsnewbie · 20-06-2006, 08:43 PM

Going to be Testoviron, got my milk thistle and PCT, so you reckon 50mg day for 4 weeks will be ok? Cant wait for cycle grew off last cycle of sus 250mg and deca 400mg dosages are better this time so cant wait to start! Thanks for help

BIG-UNC · 21-06-2006, 11:52 AM

the test your gonna take has 2 esters in it mate a long one (enanth) and a short one (prop) so you dont really need a kick start as the short ester will start working in the first week to 10 days

it does aromatise though so you should get something to combat this!

i know people who have grew very well off this test mate so just give it a go on its own dont just add thing cos people have told you too mate

do it slowly and see what works for you if your not happy with the test only then and only then add something else but i think youll be quite happy with the results

your diet and training need to be spot on mate for you to get any benefits from steroids if this isnt your wasting your time!!

**Tinytom** · 21-06-2006, 01:30 PM

If your source can't get dbol then he's a pretty crap dealer IMO.

Anadrol is more profitable for sources to sell and he'll make additional money as you will need loads of anti-e possibly some arimadex/aromasin.

That course is fine without the anadrol/dbol anyway and if your previous course was only 250mg of sus then this is a good step up. If I was to add anything to that course it would be winstrol tabs as this would provide a more quality gain. Proviron would also be a good addition as this would allow more free test and help as an anti estrogen for the testoviron.

Anadrol is a very toxic substance I HAVE NEVER USED IT FOR THAT REASON. Most of the gains you get from it dissappear after you use it and you're left with stretch marks and a load of water retention to deal with. Coupled with the fact that aromatisation is guaranteed with anadrol, unless you utilise some pretty aggressive anti aromatisation techniques you're going to look like the moonface man from The Faraway Tree.

That's only my opinion mind, I know a few people love anadrol but for me I like to see real gains not false water bloat when on a course.

Lastly have you sorted some PCT as you don't list any.

LondonGeezer · 21-06-2006, 06:46 PM

The highly androgenic effect of Anadrol stimulates the regeneration of the body so that the often-feared "over training" is unlikely. The athlete often feels that only hours after a strenuous workout he is ready for more. Even if he works out six days a week he makes continued progress.. - I pulled this out from a steroid information website, would this also be true about dbol aswell meaning i can train 2-3times a week and STILL make gains without over-training???

**hackskii** · 21-06-2006, 07:38 PM

I have never used it myself from the toxic effects of it.
I heard some time ago of someone that had some bile duct go bad on 100mg of anadrol. I cant remember who that was but they had some problems.

It is pretty toxic and therefore I would never try it.
I wont try tren either but that is another story.

Baggio · 22-06-2006, 07:54 PM

im currently using anadrol, week 1 & 2 100mg a day, week 3, 4 & 5 50mg a day. im also taking milk thistle ed. im currently 4 weeks into my cycle & i havnt experienced any really bad sides. just drink plenty of water, take something to protect ur liver & dont drink too much alcohol & ull more than likely b fine. if cycled properly anadrol can produce some good keepable gains.

**hackskii** · 22-06-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggio

im currently using anadrol, week 1 & 2 100mg a day, week 3, 4 & 5 50mg a day. im also taking milk thistle ed. im currently 4 weeks into my cycle & i havnt experienced any really bad sides. just drink plenty of water, take something to protect ur liver & dont drink too much alcohol & ull more than likely b fine. if cycled properly anadrol can produce some good keepable gains.

All by itself?

nottsnewbie · 22-06-2006, 11:07 PM

Spoke to soucre today and i got it wrong its actually anabol, for PCT got HCG and tamoxifen, was also going to run some HCG mid cycle and Tamoxifen EOD throughout cycle. Would you run HCG mid? Didnt run any on last cycle of sus + Deca but want to get it spot on this time. Its a 10 week cycle so PCT 2 weeks after is this corect?

LondonGeezer · 22-06-2006, 11:14 PM

i kno as much as start your PCT 14days after the last jab.. never cycled any of that before and never had HCG to know.

Baggio · 23-06-2006, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

All by itself?

my cycle;
anadrol week 1-5
masteron week 2-5 300mg a week
oral winstrol week 5-8 50mg ed
tamoxifen week 1- 8 20mg ed
tamoxifen week 8-10 40mg ed
tamoxifen week 11 20mg ed

i realise that stacking drol with masteron is a strange combination & not 1 usually tried. to any1 who is considering trying oxymetholone, i wud suggest cycling it with test, because drol can shut u down hard.

**hackskii** · 23-06-2006, 07:07 PM

Well, If you ran the HCG half way which would be 5 weeks then you still have 5 weeks left of the cycle and 2 weeks of clearance for the test to get out of the body (which still will shut you down), that is a total of 7 weeks from HCG administration.
Hate to tell you that this wont work.
If anything you would be better off using it at the back of the cycle or during the cycle starting at about week 3.
I really think you are going to need the HCG in that mix bud as deca is very supressive, one of the most supressive as a matter of fact.

You really need to get a good game plan for PCT now and have everything on hand that you need, otherwise some of those gains will be lost.

**hackskii** · 23-06-2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggio

my cycle;
anadrol week 1-5
masteron week 2-5 300mg a week
oral winstrol week 5-8 50mg ed
tamoxifen week 1- 8 20mg ed
tamoxifen week 8-10 40mg ed
tamoxifen week 11 20mg ed

i realise that stacking drol with masteron is a strange combination & not 1 usually tried. to any1 who is considering trying oxymetholone, i wud suggest cycling it with test, because drol can shut u down hard.

Actually I think 8 weeks on orals is not the best game plan.
Why not run a test masteron cycle?
Masteron will dry you out and the test will make you retain water, so the combo is very androgenic too.

Baggio · 23-06-2006, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nottsnewbie

Spoke to soucre today and i got it wrong its actually anabol, for PCT got HCG and tamoxifen, was also going to run some HCG mid cycle and Tamoxifen EOD throughout cycle. Would you run HCG mid? Didnt run any on last cycle of sus + Deca but want to get it spot on this time. Its a 10 week cycle so PCT 2 weeks after is this corect?

u wont necessarily need to run HCG mid cycle, but it is a good idea. it will give ur system a good boost, which it often needs when running deca, because it can shut u down hard (deca ****). i would run tamoxifen @ 20mg ed throughout the cycle (but im very suseptable 2 gyno). start PCT 2 weeks after ur last injection of test e.

20-06-2006, 06:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
nottsnewbie Newbie Trainer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 51	Anadrol insted of dbol I was planning test e 500mg week and deca 300mg week for next cycle with 4 weeks of dbol at start, just spoke to source and cant get the dbol but can get anadrol what do you think? i know its a strong oral so abit cautious but thinking 50mg day but how long would you run it for?

21-06-2006, 01:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tinytom Alpha 6 super hypno moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Babylon Posts: 8,447	If your source can't get dbol then he's a pretty crap dealer IMO. Anadrol is more profitable for sources to sell and he'll make additional money as you will need loads of anti-e possibly some arimadex/aromasin. That course is fine without the anadrol/dbol anyway and if your previous course was only 250mg of sus then this is a good step up. If I was to add anything to that course it would be winstrol tabs as this would provide a more quality gain. Proviron would also be a good addition as this would allow more free test and help as an anti estrogen for the testoviron. Anadrol is a very toxic substance I HAVE NEVER USED IT FOR THAT REASON. Most of the gains you get from it dissappear after you use it and you're left with stretch marks and a load of water retention to deal with. Coupled with the fact that aromatisation is guaranteed with anadrol, unless you utilise some pretty aggressive anti aromatisation techniques you're going to look like the moonface man from The Faraway Tree. That's only my opinion mind, I know a few people love anadrol but for me I like to see real gains not false water bloat when on a course. Lastly have you sorted some PCT as you don't list any. __________________ Half price bodyshop stuff. PM me for details Opening Soon Ministry of Fitness Gym 'If you cannot see the road then you make one' www.performancehypnosis.co.uk - achieve your goals, believe in change

21-06-2006, 07:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,050	I have never used it myself from the toxic effects of it. I heard some time ago of someone that had some bile duct go bad on 100mg of anadrol. I cant remember who that was but they had some problems. It is pretty toxic and therefore I would never try it. I wont try tren either but that is another story. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

23-06-2006, 07:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,050	Well, If you ran the HCG half way which would be 5 weeks then you still have 5 weeks left of the cycle and 2 weeks of clearance for the test to get out of the body (which still will shut you down), that is a total of 7 weeks from HCG administration. Hate to tell you that this wont work. If anything you would be better off using it at the back of the cycle or during the cycle starting at about week 3. I really think you are going to need the HCG in that mix bud as deca is very supressive, one of the most supressive as a matter of fact. You really need to get a good game plan for PCT now and have everything on hand that you need, otherwise some of those gains will be lost. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

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20-06-2006, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
BIG-UNC IF YOU BUILD IT.....THEY WILL COME! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 2,127	dont run it longer than 6 weeks mate..infact id just do 4 weeks! what test is it mate? make sure you drink plenty of water and get something to protect ya liver liv-52 or milk thistle mate

20-06-2006, 08:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
nottsnewbie Newbie Trainer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 51	Going to be Testoviron, got my milk thistle and PCT, so you reckon 50mg day for 4 weeks will be ok? Cant wait for cycle grew off last cycle of sus 250mg and deca 400mg dosages are better this time so cant wait to start! Thanks for help

21-06-2006, 11:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
BIG-UNC IF YOU BUILD IT.....THEY WILL COME! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 2,127	the test your gonna take has 2 esters in it mate a long one (enanth) and a short one (prop) so you dont really need a kick start as the short ester will start working in the first week to 10 days it does aromatise though so you should get something to combat this! i know people who have grew very well off this test mate so just give it a go on its own dont just add thing cos people have told you too mate do it slowly and see what works for you if your not happy with the test only then and only then add something else but i think youll be quite happy with the results your diet and training need to be spot on mate for you to get any benefits from steroids if this isnt your wasting your time!!

21-06-2006, 06:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
LondonGeezer Looking Freaky Join Date: May 2006 Location: South-East London Posts: 903	The highly androgenic effect of Anadrol stimulates the regeneration of the body so that the often-feared "over training" is unlikely. The athlete often feels that only hours after a strenuous workout he is ready for more. Even if he works out six days a week he makes continued progress.. - I pulled this out from a steroid information website, would this also be true about dbol aswell meaning i can train 2-3times a week and STILL make gains without over-training???

22-06-2006, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Baggio 21 years old Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 387	im currently using anadrol, week 1 & 2 100mg a day, week 3, 4 & 5 50mg a day. im also taking milk thistle ed. im currently 4 weeks into my cycle & i havnt experienced any really bad sides. just drink plenty of water, take something to protect ur liver & dont drink too much alcohol & ull more than likely b fine. if cycled properly anadrol can produce some good keepable gains.

22-06-2006, 11:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
nottsnewbie Newbie Trainer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 51	Spoke to soucre today and i got it wrong its actually anabol, for PCT got HCG and tamoxifen, was also going to run some HCG mid cycle and Tamoxifen EOD throughout cycle. Would you run HCG mid? Didnt run any on last cycle of sus + Deca but want to get it spot on this time. Its a 10 week cycle so PCT 2 weeks after is this corect?

22-06-2006, 11:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
LondonGeezer Looking Freaky Join Date: May 2006 Location: South-East London Posts: 903	i kno as much as start your PCT 14days after the last jab.. never cycled any of that before and never had HCG to know.