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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well, if you drive estrogen too low you will compromise your lipid profile and yes one side effect of too low estrogen can be erectile problems, bone loss, depression, so yah, I would opt for the sugery then take some AI when on a cycle if that is what you are thinking about doing. Nolvadex will just block the receptor sites but to my knowledge wont hammer your lipid profile so that is the route I would take first. Other than that i dont think you will have success outside of surgery.
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![]() | thanx mate , but would'nt your sex drive come back when you stoped taking letrozole or could it do life long damage to your sex drive? i dont mind if its just tempery erection problems while taking the drug . it would save me alot of time and money if it works? ... well i duno how long i would have to take it for ? |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well, all drugs effect people diffrently. X amount of Femara might lower your estrogen levels so much and if I took X amount it might tank them. Without blood work it is impossible to tell. Some seem to think (myself included) that it is the ratio of estrogen to testosterone that brings about gyno. For instance, you produce a certain ratio of estrogen to testosterone. You add a bunch of testosterone and many guys like me dont get gyno from a cycle. So I am totally sure that my estrogen is high but so is the testosterone. So I dont think it is overall estrogen but the ratio of T to E So tanking your estrogen probably wont do anything to the gyno as the estrogen stored fat in the area that was estrogen sensitive. I guess you could try it but I dont think you will have success but you can try it. Just next cycle you will have to run either an anti-e or an AI.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I've been looking into using Letro just recently and have now ordered some. From the research I have carried out, using 1.25mg a day plus 40mg Nolva can reduce gyno dramatically. In cases where people have nipples like envelope corners it has removed this in a 4-5 week period. Some are reporting that it has had an effect on their sex drive where others are saying it doesn't, my guess would be to run it during a cycle using Test to help with libido. Like most things it's going to work for some and not for others so for me it's a case of sucking and see. I hope to start mine next week and I'll update this post in 4 weeks or so with any results. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Nolvadex if taken with femare can lower blood plasma levels of femera by 38% with just 20mg of nolvadex. So with 40mg of nolvadex this could make femera ineffective. Nolvadex on the other hand has zero effects on Aromasin and this is a suicide aromatase inhibitor, diffrent approach for an aromatase inhibitor, so they can be used together. I have a ton of that stuff (liquid) if you are interested. Do a little search on it and see for yourself.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ive just ordered some letro, and from what ive read, it would be pointless taking any other anti e's when using letro. apparently it stops them doing anything. im just gonna run letro for a couple of weeks while on my test and winny cycle to try and minimise my puberty related gyno/ and or stop it getting worse. im gonna keep my nolv fro when i come off the letro to try and stop the rebound effect |
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TBH if your that bothered about agrevating the gyno then go to the doc to get it sorted.. Or use steroids which cant cause gyno. Tbol, Anavar Primo etc
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I still think using an AI to keep estrogen "under control" is a good idea. Estrogen is 200 times more supressive than testosterone. I agree that if you have gyno issues then dont use steroids that aromatise. Kindof lowers the options though. I have never tried Tren and wont but for me test was my favorite and winstrol was my least favorite for what it is worth.
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![]() | There is a topical anti-gyno formula out there that includes the following: Transdermal letrozol/aromasin/DHT combo It is applied locally. I have never used it thankfully, but I keep it on hand just in case. The theory is that applied to the nipple region you won't get as much of a systemic effect from the AI's. In addtion, it is reccomended that you run a DHT based compund like Masteron, Primo or Winny. Do a google search and maybe you can find it if you're interested. Good luck. (cut andd paste) anyone know anything about this |
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