Eggo26

Hi hackskii i would like to know what you think about my PCT. I have been following this protocol for the last 10 days.

My cycle was composed by 100 mg test prop EOD total of 350mg a week more or less. I had last shot of Testo prop and after 2 day i did 2000 iu HGC and the day after i started with this pct protocol:

day 1 to 3 100 mg clomid + 20 mg nolva
day 4 to 35 50 mg clomid + 20 mg nolva

Now after i have read your article i was wondering if another 2000iu HGC could help me now. Today is the 10th day i'm running this protocol.

what do u think and suggest?

cheers

hackskii

If the nuts are not online then you wont have much success.
Getting those buddys to work could take months with no intervention.

Id like to see more clomid in there as well.

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Scott

Eggo26

I can't take more clomid coz i get bad sides effects (nausea, sight problems...)

i still have one 2000iu vials of HCG i would like to know if it is a good idea to inject it or should i keep going the same way as the last 10 days.

cheers

hackskii

Well, how long was your cycle for?
If your libido is not going then yah, id hit 1000iu EOD and continue with the serms for another month.

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Scott

Eggo26

this was the cycle:

test prop 1-3 75mg EOD
test en 1-9 250mg twice a week (500mg total)
test prop 9-13 100mg EOD
Hgc 250iu 1-13 twice a week
hgc 2000iu after my last shot of prop
Proviron 6-13 50mg ED

My libido is definitely not going but today is the 11th day of pct i don't know if i have to wait more.....

petes

Hi, this all seems to make perfect sense at last! I've been a AAS user for some years and always struggled to do some kind of pct. In all fairness it seems as though fairly unsuccessfully!
I shut down very hard, even 4 weeks of 450mg test prop hammers me. Anything above 500mg/wk and I feel like c**p!
Reading this has come just at the right time!
I'm currently doing 250 of omnadren every ten days as an experiment to see how a low dose feels and if I can cut a bit too. been on about six weeks feeling bloody great, even getting good results lifting more, body fat going. Want to stay on another month. Nuts have gone! well one of them is like a peanut!
I'm dreading the thought of coming off and loosing sex drive and feeling low. Will I get this with this protocol?
Also been struggling to get HCG for ages. My contact has now got some coming but I think it is going to be packs of 3 1500iu's. Reading the article and looking at my nads, I think I'll need the full 2500iu's at least! How can I use my 1500's to best effect?
Cheers Pete.

hackskii

Pete, I bet money to bring your balls back you will need about 20,000iu of HCG.
I personally would take an AI with your omne, and also shoot some HCG in there during this time.
Then wait about 2 weeks continuely taking the HCG while the omni clears, then some HCG at the start of the PCT, then clomid and nolva.

You will be fine, but those nuts the size of peas, well that is gonna be a problem, you may need even more HCG, perhaps even HMG.

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Scott

petes

Thanks for the reply there, realy appreciate it mate. Went to see a endocrinologist last week and he dismissed me as some sort of ar**ole told me very arrogantly to stop dead with the gear and come back in 6 months and he may be able to help! I got every respect for the medical profession but this guy needs a lesson in people skills.
Rant over! Would you say I use my 1500iu eod until my knackers start to re appear? Or try and get some 5000iu amps (may be hard for me to get) and split them and shoot that eod?
Or may be try 1500iu eod for a few shots then go to shoot every day if that doesn't fire them up. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Pete

hackskii

No, low dose will provide you with what you are looking for.
Keeping estrogen at bay and along with the HCG will provide you with what you are looking for.

PM me with your details and I will give you a plan.
Or post here.

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Scott

Con

The hcg at a high dose is great i am on day 10 of the 15 day protocol and feeling great, nuts came back great!

Cowsfortea

Me too, coming to the end of this pct, and this protocol has definately been the most successful

petes

Hi Scott,
can't seem to be able to email or PM you, may be my incopetance!
I'm currently running 1x250mg omnadren every 10 days been on for six weeks, wasn't fully recovered from my last cycle, all be it a short one. so I guess Ive been suppressed for about 3 months in total, not a huge length of time and very low amounts of gear. But nuts have gone.
I am using novedex xt as an AI e3d (can't get pukka AI from my supplier)
and 10mg of tamoxifen eod.
The cycle has done what I wanted, strength good, training great, feeling great! Shredded fair bit of bf. Best shape Ive ever been in tbh.
Ive got 2 shots of Omna left. Should have my HCG on thursday night and clomid and tamox I got on hand.
My supplier says the hcg is 2500iu a shot and in boxes of 3? That doesnt sound right to me so I'm taking it they'll be 1500iu in 3s.
Should I stay on and use the last two shots or do you think that'll create me more problems? Either way advice as to PCT and sorting the shrunken nuts would be great!
Cheers, Pete.

jassdhali

Im on TRT - and finally managed to get doc to refer me to an endo as I would like to know what exactly isnt functioning as it should. I remember a while back seeing a post on the basic blood tests for determining primary/secondary gonadtropin. Could anyone point me in the right direction. THanks

hackskii

petes, HCG will fix those nuts, but id like to know for sure what it is you are going to take.
Depending on the HCG, it comes in varying iu's, amps and multiuse vials too.

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Scott

petes

Ok yeah, my mistake, it's just pregnyl then in 1500iu and 5000iu.
Will hopefully have it thurs eve. I will post up the dosage then.
Cheers, Pete