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Littleluke · 09-04-2006, 06:05 PM

I'm 19 and I know most of you would say don't take them but I'd like advice on the safest cycle possible for my age.. I've been told T-bol would be good or low dose dbol but personally am thinking of getting some Var. So what sort of dosage would you reccomend me taking with each of these types of aas. The problem with dbol is the side effects being strong in regards to premature growth stunting etc which is what puts me off that. I feel I've made good gains but want a little boost without going crazy! I've been thinking about doing them for a few months now, I'm just waiting till I get some money!
Also, would it be worth buying any pro-hormones instead of aas? thanks in advance..

BIG-UNC · 09-04-2006, 07:29 PM

if i were you i wouldnt touch them yet but we all have our own opinions mate just b carefull and do everything correctly..especially pct or you'll just b wasting your time & money....goodluck

crazycacti · 09-04-2006, 07:36 PM

do you honestly think you can't get any bigger naturally?

are your compound lifts increasing or do you think you have reached your natural limit?

SNOWY · 09-04-2006, 08:10 PM

would you need hcg with anavar? i know dosage and length will affect pct . but do people do a avavar only cycle and use hcg because it's the best thing to do?

wiseguy83 · 09-04-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lukeybigarms

I'm 19 and I know most of you would say don't take them but I'd like advice on the safest cycle possible for my age.. I've been told T-bol would be good or low dose dbol but personally am thinking of getting some Var. So what sort of dosage would you reccomend me taking with each of these types of aas. The problem with dbol is the side effects being strong in regards to premature growth stunting etc which is what puts me off that. I feel I've made good gains but want a little boost without going crazy! I've been thinking about doing them for a few months now, I'm just waiting till I get some money!
Also, would it be worth buying any pro-hormones instead of aas? thanks in advance..

try to buy a book called the works.its got a lot of advice in it on beginers courses and the strenth of drugs.if i was you id wait till you are 21 at least,we all get sticking points just try something diffrent in yer training or diet.stick to the compounds mate.

dynamatiz · 09-04-2006, 10:56 PM

hey lukey whats your stats mate

i.e weight, height bf%, diet and routine , you will get a much more help regarding you situation if you does this mate

Littleluke · 10-04-2006, 02:38 PM

I'm 5,8 at 71kg.. Ieat all the right stuf as I've researched it and had loads of help (lots from this board) and I pmed my diet to Aftershock and he couldn't pick any real faults.. If you've still got in your inbox can u post it mate as I've got no time to type it up lol! My lifts are increasaing but I've been ill recently and lost some weight I'm actually 69kg now so I want to get myself on track more.. I know gear is extreme.. what about pro-hormones? any good?

DB · 10-04-2006, 02:44 PM

honestly i'd say stay natural...

but if u are going to turn to the dark side...

i would go on a real low dose dbol cycle of 10-15 mg and use it how samurai 69 has been using it.... no need to jump on 500mg/week sust cycles with ur stats sorry mate

i honestly reckon with more food u'll be fine

**big** · 10-04-2006, 02:45 PM

Just eat more dude. If your lifts are going up, you're getting stronger, and as long as you have a calorie surplus and are eating enough protein, you will gain mass.

No need for gear yet, you've got at least another 2-3 years natty growth yet IMO.

**Aftershock** · 10-04-2006, 02:49 PM

We been here befor Lukey and the answer is the same as when you asked 2 monthe ago

Undoubtidly the best option is to wait!!! However that doesnt answer your question does it..

IMO the safest possible cycle you could do would be Anavar (because doesnt stunt bone growth etc), but its very expensive and best stacked with other gear IMO.

My personal choice in this case would be low dose dbol 14 on 14 off as per Samurai69's cycle..

I must reiterate im not saying you should do it mate, but I think thats the safest option, other than not doing anything at all of course

Harry · 10-04-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth

would you need hcg with anavar? i know dosage and length will affect pct . but do people do a avavar only cycle and use hcg because it's the best thing to do?

If it's a short cycle you should be OK with just good PCT, however, you will still get shut down and your testicals will become atrified to some extent, so it can be used to keep them plump.

But if your going to shoot HCG why not shoot test and use the Var to compliment it.

SNOWY · 11-04-2006, 12:09 AM

thanks. i only asked because i know he doesn't want any estrogenic side effects so he would need a cycle where he can avoid hcg

Ironman · 11-04-2006, 10:36 AM

Stay natural bud - gear isnt the answer yet. You will benefit alot more if you decide to take gear in the future if you get a good natural foundation first.
Just enjoy your training and experiment with different routines - get plenty of food inside you - if you struggle to gain weight eating clean then eat some sh1te - just get the cals in.

the_gre8t_1ne · 11-04-2006, 10:44 AM

Good advise BUD!!

09-04-2006, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Littleluke Junior Bodybuilder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK. Posts: 3,385	1st cycle I'm 19 and I know most of you would say don't take them but I'd like advice on the safest cycle possible for my age.. I've been told T-bol would be good or low dose dbol but personally am thinking of getting some Var. So what sort of dosage would you reccomend me taking with each of these types of aas. The problem with dbol is the side effects being strong in regards to premature growth stunting etc which is what puts me off that. I feel I've made good gains but want a little boost without going crazy! I've been thinking about doing them for a few months now, I'm just waiting till I get some money! Also, would it be worth buying any pro-hormones instead of aas? thanks in advance.. Last edited by Littleluke; 09-04-2006 at 06:10 PM.

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SNOWY Polar Bear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: south wales. Cwmbran Posts: 183	would you need hcg with anavar? i know dosage and length will affect pct . but do people do a avavar only cycle and use hcg because it's the best thing to do? Last edited by SNOWY; 09-04-2006 at 09:49 PM.

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DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,762	honestly i'd say stay natural... but if u are going to turn to the dark side... i would go on a real low dose dbol cycle of 10-15 mg and use it how samurai 69 has been using it.... no need to jump on 500mg/week sust cycles with ur stats sorry mate i honestly reckon with more food u'll be fine __________________ Affiliate of Bulk Supplements Direct Discount Code= BSD290 UKBFF southcoast 2008, O80kg Champion

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09-04-2006, 07:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
BIG-UNC IF YOU BUILD IT.....THEY WILL COME! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 1,945	if i were you i wouldnt touch them yet but we all have our own opinions mate just b carefull and do everything correctly..especially pct or you'll just b wasting your time & money....goodluck

09-04-2006, 07:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	do you honestly think you can't get any bigger naturally? are your compound lifts increasing or do you think you have reached your natural limit?

09-04-2006, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
dynamatiz work in progress Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NORTHEAST Posts: 329	hey lukey whats your stats mate i.e weight, height bf%, diet and routine , you will get a much more help regarding you situation if you does this mate

10-04-2006, 02:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Littleluke Junior Bodybuilder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK. Posts: 3,385	I'm 5,8 at 71kg.. Ieat all the right stuf as I've researched it and had loads of help (lots from this board) and I pmed my diet to Aftershock and he couldn't pick any real faults.. If you've still got in your inbox can u post it mate as I've got no time to type it up lol! My lifts are increasaing but I've been ill recently and lost some weight I'm actually 69kg now so I want to get myself on track more.. I know gear is extreme.. what about pro-hormones? any good?

10-04-2006, 02:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,511	Just eat more dude. If your lifts are going up, you're getting stronger, and as long as you have a calorie surplus and are eating enough protein, you will gain mass. No need for gear yet, you've got at least another 2-3 years natty growth yet IMO.

10-04-2006, 02:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,057	We been here befor Lukey and the answer is the same as when you asked 2 monthe ago Undoubtidly the best option is to wait!!! However that doesnt answer your question does it.. IMO the safest possible cycle you could do would be Anavar (because doesnt stunt bone growth etc), but its very expensive and best stacked with other gear IMO. My personal choice in this case would be low dose dbol 14 on 14 off as per Samurai69's cycle.. I must reiterate im not saying you should do it mate, but I think thats the safest option, other than not doing anything at all of course

11-04-2006, 12:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
SNOWY Polar Bear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: south wales. Cwmbran Posts: 183	thanks. i only asked because i know he doesn't want any estrogenic side effects so he would need a cycle where he can avoid hcg

11-04-2006, 10:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ironman Sculpting the masterpiece Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,464	Stay natural bud - gear isnt the answer yet. You will benefit alot more if you decide to take gear in the future if you get a good natural foundation first. Just enjoy your training and experiment with different routines - get plenty of food inside you - if you struggle to gain weight eating clean then eat some sh1te - just get the cals in.

11-04-2006, 10:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
the_gre8t_1ne Your Friendly neighbourhood pusha! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Ghetto (West, London) Posts: 4,086	Good advise BUD!!