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pumpedvegita · 15-02-2004, 07:27 PM

Hi, I'm new to steroids. Training for 2 years now, I have been powerlifting without aid of steroids. I weigh 180LB, 5"11 and about 12% bodyfat. As you can see a bit too skinny for my height
but a fair amount of power. Enough of the chitchat, I'm planning a cycle and looking for help. Here it is:

week 1-10 Test Cypionate 400mg a week
week1-4 Dianabol 25mg a day
week 12 Clomid 100mg a day 40mg nolva a day
week 13-14 clomid 50mg a day and nolva 20 mg a day
Nolva will be run throughout the cycle at 20mg a day.

current deadlift 235KG
squat 180Kg
bench100Kg

all this time i thought i was gaining muscle on my chest but it was fat. No wonder my bench is S**t. And i do have the crappy moon face. I wanna make even bigger gains in strength and more muscle mass without retaining fat. I ain't gonna do a cutting cycle, gonna traing even harder in summer for more power.
Can someone give a mods username. I need to do a source check.

Sorry for the long info but i'm a newbie to roids.

Pumpedvegita

(Don't make me angry, You don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk)

**robdog** · 15-02-2004, 08:16 PM

mods names are at the top of the home page bro.

**robdog** · 15-02-2004, 08:22 PM

sorry not the home page. the page bfore this one with all the posts listed on it.

T-man · 15-02-2004, 09:33 PM

welcome mate,

Your cycle looks ok and you should do well on it. Thats a good deadlift. How old are you?

You might not need nolva everyday during you cycle as it might limit your gains as you will hold less water. Every other day should be ok. Or just keep an eye out for any signs of gyno and take it when you need it.

Also I would take some liver protectants like milk thistle or ala.

Panthro · 15-02-2004, 09:57 PM

hi mate, cycle looks ok, refreshing to see someone using very sensible doses for the 1st time!!!! However, your PCT looks a bit funny to me.

1 half life after your last shot of test (cant remember off top of my head what cyp is) do the following:

Day 1- 300mg clomid
Day 2-11 100mg clomid
Day 12-21 50mg clomid

I take tribulus all the way through at 1500mg/day and Zinc at 45mg/day.

hope this helps! Keep cals and protein very high, and you'll grow like a beast!!!

Great lifts by the way!

Joolz

Raven · 16-02-2004, 09:42 AM

Yeah cycle looks perfect for a first time user, the only thing is as suggested above is drop the nolva as strength gain is your main goal. 400mg of test is unlikey to cause gyno and if it does it will only be from estrogen so nolva will treat it no problems.

If you need a source check then shoot me a PM or a mail

pumpedvegita · 16-02-2004, 05:34 PM

I'm 20 years old, thanks for the cycle info.

pumpedvegita

(dont' make me angry, you don't want to see me when i 'm angry - The Hulk)

Panthro · 16-02-2004, 05:49 PM

hmmm, 20 years old? too young to be using gear mate. You've got so much natural test at your age, id wait off for at least a year. Taking gear that young can mess you up. trust me on that one....

T-man · 16-02-2004, 10:46 PM

you seem to be doing ok with your lifts without them for the moment so why not wait another year I am sure you can make some more progress without them, but it is up to you.

Mr T · 17-02-2004, 11:28 AM

i wouldnt rush into it, i did at 20 and wish i had of waited till now as i was clueless.......

pumpedvegita · 17-02-2004, 02:08 PM

I know i'm a little young but unlike other newbies i've done a lot of research to kick start natural test and i'll be using tribulus terestris, zinc as well. I'm cautious of the sides i can get but i'm only planning one cycle to kick start me into hyperdrive. When i'm older i'll decide if i want to do more than one cycle a year.
Anyway thanks for info.

pumpedvegita

(don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk)

turbo · 17-02-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pumpedvegita
I know i'm a little young but unlike other newbies i've done a lot of research to kick start natural test and i'll be using tribulus terestris, zinc as well. I'm cautious of the sides i can get but i'm only planning one cycle to kick start me into hyperdrive. When i'm older i'll decide if i want to do more than one cycle a year.

Thats what everyone says.

**robdog** · 17-02-2004, 02:22 PM

people on here will tell you mate, no one does just one cycle.

pumpedvegita · 17-02-2004, 02:30 PM

i know it might be hard for you to believe but i love training the hard way, i like old skool training just as an example i love training so hard i T bar row every week 160kg after deads and bent over barbell row. The only reason why i need to do a roid cycle is that early 2003 i had a serious muscle injury. Tore my left glute muscle. Couldn't walk for 2 months and pain didn't leave till september. I got so far behind training, all i need to do is kick start me then back to training how i was.

I will do more than one cycle a year but thats when i'm older.

pumpedvegita

(don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hluk)

mdrury2003 · 17-02-2004, 03:34 PM

I think you seem to have done a fair bit of research and seem to know what you want but..... as the others say you will noway only do one cycle. Almost everybody has at some point said the same, i said that before i started my current cycle and now i am so impressed with the gains etc i know there will surely be more to follow. You simply cannot gain like you do when on gear....

good luck either way though mate keep us updated at your progress

15-02-2004, 07:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
pumpedvegita Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34	newbie to steroids Hi, I'm new to steroids. Training for 2 years now, I have been powerlifting without aid of steroids. I weigh 180LB, 5"11 and about 12% bodyfat. As you can see a bit too skinny for my height but a fair amount of power. Enough of the chitchat, I'm planning a cycle and looking for help. Here it is: week 1-10 Test Cypionate 400mg a week week1-4 Dianabol 25mg a day week 12 Clomid 100mg a day 40mg nolva a day week 13-14 clomid 50mg a day and nolva 20 mg a day Nolva will be run throughout the cycle at 20mg a day. current deadlift 235KG squat 180Kg bench100Kg all this time i thought i was gaining muscle on my chest but it was fat. No wonder my bench is S**t. And i do have the crappy moon face. I wanna make even bigger gains in strength and more muscle mass without retaining fat. I ain't gonna do a cutting cycle, gonna traing even harder in summer for more power. Can someone give a mods username. I need to do a source check. Sorry for the long info but i'm a newbie to roids. Pumpedvegita (Don't make me angry, You don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk)

15-02-2004, 08:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
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15-02-2004, 08:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
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15-02-2004, 09:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
T-man Gym Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: England Posts: 253	welcome mate, Your cycle looks ok and you should do well on it. Thats a good deadlift. How old are you? You might not need nolva everyday during you cycle as it might limit your gains as you will hold less water. Every other day should be ok. Or just keep an eye out for any signs of gyno and take it when you need it. Also I would take some liver protectants like milk thistle or ala. __________________ You can't grow without pain!

15-02-2004, 09:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,508	hi mate, cycle looks ok, refreshing to see someone using very sensible doses for the 1st time!!!! However, your PCT looks a bit funny to me. 1 half life after your last shot of test (cant remember off top of my head what cyp is) do the following: Day 1- 300mg clomid Day 2-11 100mg clomid Day 12-21 50mg clomid I take tribulus all the way through at 1500mg/day and Zinc at 45mg/day. hope this helps! Keep cals and protein very high, and you'll grow like a beast!!! Great lifts by the way! Joolz __________________ "looking at picutres of half naked men dont get you strong. Lets get down to business and go to the gym" - Svend Karlson. 'Viking Power'

16-02-2004, 09:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Raven Hardcore Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Bowery Posts: 849	Yeah cycle looks perfect for a first time user, the only thing is as suggested above is drop the nolva as strength gain is your main goal. 400mg of test is unlikey to cause gyno and if it does it will only be from estrogen so nolva will treat it no problems. If you need a source check then shoot me a PM or a mail __________________ To find what was lost you must first go back to the beginning and find it again To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. http://www.ucw.biz/

16-02-2004, 05:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
pumpedvegita Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34	I'm 20 years old, thanks for the cycle info. pumpedvegita (dont' make me angry, you don't want to see me when i 'm angry - The Hulk) __________________ Don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk

16-02-2004, 05:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,508	hmmm, 20 years old? too young to be using gear mate. You've got so much natural test at your age, id wait off for at least a year. Taking gear that young can mess you up. trust me on that one.... __________________ "looking at picutres of half naked men dont get you strong. Lets get down to business and go to the gym" - Svend Karlson. 'Viking Power'

16-02-2004, 10:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
T-man Gym Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: England Posts: 253	you seem to be doing ok with your lifts without them for the moment so why not wait another year I am sure you can make some more progress without them, but it is up to you. __________________ You can't grow without pain!

17-02-2004, 11:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mr T Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 709	i wouldnt rush into it, i did at 20 and wish i had of waited till now as i was clueless....... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

17-02-2004, 02:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
pumpedvegita Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34	I know i'm a little young but unlike other newbies i've done a lot of research to kick start natural test and i'll be using tribulus terestris, zinc as well. I'm cautious of the sides i can get but i'm only planning one cycle to kick start me into hyperdrive. When i'm older i'll decide if i want to do more than one cycle a year. Anyway thanks for info. pumpedvegita (don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk) __________________ Don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk

17-02-2004, 02:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
robdog UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Home!! Posts: 5,614	people on here will tell you mate, no one does just one cycle. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 25% off for UKM members (discount code UKM25)

17-02-2004, 02:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
pumpedvegita Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34	i know it might be hard for you to believe but i love training the hard way, i like old skool training just as an example i love training so hard i T bar row every week 160kg after deads and bent over barbell row. The only reason why i need to do a roid cycle is that early 2003 i had a serious muscle injury. Tore my left glute muscle. Couldn't walk for 2 months and pain didn't leave till september. I got so far behind training, all i need to do is kick start me then back to training how i was. I will do more than one cycle a year but thats when i'm older. pumpedvegita (don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hluk) __________________ Don't make me angry, you don't want to see me when i'm angry - The Hulk

17-02-2004, 03:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
mdrury2003 Gym Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: plymouth uk Posts: 192	I think you seem to have done a fair bit of research and seem to know what you want but..... as the others say you will noway only do one cycle. Almost everybody has at some point said the same, i said that before i started my current cycle and now i am so impressed with the gains etc i know there will surely be more to follow. You simply cannot gain like you do when on gear.... good luck either way though mate keep us updated at your progress

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