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ginkgo · 21-03-2006, 08:34 PM

Blood test from last Wednesday

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A little back ground 6'1 300lbs 35yrs old 25%bf

Describes the mood or content of the topic posted 03-20-06 08:18 PM
My dr told me I have high blood pressure about a month ago and put me on meds. ( I took the meds for 2 days) I stopped my cycle so everything would go back to normal.

I bought an omron blood pressure monitor and was testing my blood pressure. Turns out I had my arm up too high while taking the readings and the readings were normal.

I started my cycle again 1000mg test, 20 mg halo and 600mg of EQ. I was feeling weird but since the bp monitor said everything is normal I ignored everything. I dropped the halo in hopes of felling better. Then I added abombs at 50mg per day for the last 2 days. Oh and 5iu of hgh 5 on 2 off and I switched the EQ for tritren (3 Tren esters)

I went to the dr last week and he said my blood pressure was high and put me back on the meds and ordered a 24 hr bp monitor.

I picked it up today and **** my bp fluctuates from 177/110 - 150/94.

I think it takes a few weeks for the blood pressure meds to kick in. I dropped the abombs and I have to wait until the test/eq/tren filter out of my system.

How long uintil I should retest to see if my numbers are going down.

**hackskii** · 21-03-2006, 10:17 PM

Oh man, you had high blood pressure so you added tren and a-bombs into that cycle?

Man, you better be carefull with AAS and blood pressure. The number one cause of kidney failure is high blood pressure.
The liver is chemical and the kidneys are mechanical, like a big filter. You damage that filter and it is damaged for life.

My buddy got high blood pressure from gear and it took maybe 12 years to give it to him, he is off the gear and still on the blood pressure medication.

Watch out for foamy urine, dark urine as this is a good indication of some damage or even blood in the urine.
What ever you do dont get yourself all excited either, Tren is notorius for aggression and if you work yourself up too much you will have problems.

Me, id drop the tren and abombs at least for now. Id even drop everything till you get this under control.
Those kidneys you need for life.

Dont take this as a dig but you need to be a bit more concerned here, strokes and all kinds of things happen with high blood pressure.

Are your eyes bloodshot?
Nosebleeds?

ginkgo · 21-03-2006, 11:22 PM

Oh man, you had high blood pressure so you added tren and a-bombs into that cycle?

I thought it was ok. My mistake.

I've been cycling for the last 5 years.

I'm stopping everything. I'm done.

Is there anything that the blood test picked up about my kidneys?

I am very concearned about all this.

No nose bleeds and I my eyes are not blood shot.

**hackskii** · 21-03-2006, 11:53 PM

Sure they can tell if your kidneys are ok with a blood test.

One reason I know is I was doing a test EQ cycle with some winstrol in there and ended up having blood in my urine.
The Doc also said I had beginning stages of congestive heart failure.
I was stressed out, driving long miles to see my daughter (6) in another State and could see my heartbeat in my chest.
I had dark urine and was drinking lots of water at the time.
Gave me a urine test at the doc office then they said I had blood in the urine, ketones and calcium.
Gave me two meds and said to come back in a couple of weeks.
Bummer was I just had a shot of enanthate and that takes some days to clear the system.

I had another scare with just a short winstrol cycle too.
I am pretty much done too.
I am 46 an not as young and cant bounce back like I was when I was 22

It does not help drinking on cycles and smoking weed either but hell, nobody could tell this guy anything

I know there are alot of guys that rant on how safe gear is and how bad smoking is but for some people it is bad.
My buddy comming off gear for years had some of the worst depression I have ever seen in a person.
This is common for guys doing very long cycles.
They had my buddy on high blood pressure meds, cholesterol lowering meds, anti-depression meds, oh man he was in bad shape but looked really good

Get a full blood panel after you are off and check it all out.
Better safe than sorry. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
My Mom used to say that.

ginkgo · 22-03-2006, 12:07 AM

Thanks hackskii. I am stressed out too. We'll see how it goes.

But I know this was the last straw for me. I've been felling crappy for a while and all this on top of it. I'm done.

ginkgo · 22-03-2006, 12:16 AM

what type of diet shoud I follow?

ginkgo · 23-03-2006, 01:23 PM

I have Clomid, nova, letro and hch.

The letro is an Aromatase Inhibitor. Should I start that ? and... will that interfere with taking the blood pressure meds?

Would Hch be of any benefit now?

**hackskii** · 23-03-2006, 02:36 PM

Oh man, first a couple of questions.

Do you have testicular atrophy (small nuts) right now?

What was your last shot and how much, and when?

How much HCG do you have?

How much clomid/nolvadex do you have?

How long have you been on total?

Did you take time off or did you like those long cycles?

From the high blood pressure and the stress thing, sounds like you were on for a while. Do you have depression right now?

Did you get your cholesterol checked and if so what were the numbers?

Sorry, just want to get a picture in my mind of what is going on and why.

ginkgo · 24-03-2006, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Oh man, first a couple of questions.

Do you have testicular atrophy (small nuts) right now?
They seem fine.

What was your last shot and how much, and when?
250test e and 200tritren 3/14

How much HCG do you have?
1500mg

How much clomid/nolvadex do you have?
tons

How long have you been on total?
2 months on 3weeks off 3 weeks on. Been cycling for 5 years with mostly 1 month in between cycles and 3 month cycles.

Did you take time off or did you like those long cycles?
I like the long cyckles

From the high blood pressure and the stress thing, sounds like you were on for a while. Do you have depression right now?
It comes and goes.

Did you get your cholesterol checked and if so what were the numbers?
ldl 133 high and hdl 20 low

Sorry, just want to get a picture in my mind of what is going on and why.

Answers in bold.

**hackskii** · 24-03-2006, 03:38 PM

Ok, lets just do it this way, I can tell by your high blood pressure and depression along with that lipid profile you are just like my friend was but his HDL was only 5

Time to come off for awhile or forever actually.

mix the HCG and put it in 3 slin needles and make up 3 500iu shots.
Take one shot today, one on Sunday and one on Wednesday.
Take 20mg of Nolvadex for 30 days
Day 31-35 10mg of nolva, day 36-40 5 mg nolva, 41-45 2.5mg nolva.
For the first week I want you to take 1000iu of Vitamin E, this will help the HCG some, then take as recomended for awhile.

I also want you to take some things to get that cholesterol in check, Gear will hammer lipid profile and I am surprised the HDL was not closer to 15 or even under.
Take some Naicin the coated stuff so you dont get flush.
Take 6-12 fish oils a day, with your meals, this will help your triglycerides and help with inflammation, homocysteine, c-reactive protein, depression, high blood pressure and some other things that you need right now.
Take some B-12 injectables if you can find it.
Folic Acid is good here for homocysteine too.
You will need some antioxidants, and some vitamins now to help things along.
A good clean diet too would not hurt here.
Take some apple pectin too to help with your LDL's in lowering them.

You can take some creatine now to help keep some of your gains while you are off.

Honestly, this will help, your cardiovascular system is probably hammered right now and beings that you will have low test levels for awhile you need all the help you can get. Antioxidants are very important for you right now due to low HDL's

This is going to take some time and you need to be in a low stress situation right now.
Recovery might take some time but you will be ok in the long run.
I have seen this happen before and I was in the same boat as you.
I am not telling you to do anything that I would not be doing myself.

This sucks bro, it is common and you now have some tools to combat it.

Let me know how you feel in a months time.

If it takes longer to recover, I have another idea too.

ginkgo · 25-03-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Ok, lets just do it this way, I can tell by your high blood pressure and depression along with that lipid profile you are just like my friend was but his HDL was only 5

Time to come off for awhile or forever actually.

mix the HCG and put it in 3 slin needles and make up 3 500iu shots.
Take one shot today, one on Sunday and one on Wednesday.
Take 20mg of Nolvadex for 30 days
Day 31-35 10mg of nolva, day 36-40 5 mg nolva, 41-45 2.5mg nolva.
For the first week I want you to take 1000iu of Vitamin E, this will help the HCG some, then take as recomended for awhile.

I also want you to take some things to get that cholesterol in check, Gear will hammer lipid profile and I am surprised the HDL was not closer to 15 or even under.
Take some Naicin the coated stuff so you dont get flush.
Take 6-12 fish oils a day, with your meals, this will help your triglycerides and help with inflammation, homocysteine, c-reactive protein, depression, high blood pressure and some other things that you need right now.
Take some B-12 injectables if you can find it.
Folic Acid is good here for homocysteine too.
You will need some antioxidants, and some vitamins now to help things along.
A good clean diet too would not hurt here.
Take some apple pectin too to help with your LDL's in lowering them.

You can take some creatine now to help keep some of your gains while you are off.

Honestly, this will help, your cardiovascular system is probably hammered right now and beings that you will have low test levels for awhile you need all the help you can get. Antioxidants are very important for you right now due to low HDL's

This is going to take some time and you need to be in a low stress situation right now.
Recovery might take some time but you will be ok in the long run.
I have seen this happen before and I was in the same boat as you.
I am not telling you to do anything that I would not be doing myself.

This sucks bro, it is common and you now have some tools to combat it.

Let me know how you feel in a months time.

If it takes longer to recover, I have another idea too.

Thanks hackskii. All this and also my blood pressure meds too right. The bp meds had a diretic in them.

**hackskii** · 25-03-2006, 09:48 PM

That makes sense as you were probably had some water retention from the test.
I think you should be ok taking the meds and the other stuff.

21-03-2006, 08:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
ginkgo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7	blood test while on Blood test from last Wednesday http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7913405599.jpg&s=x11 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7913401422.jpg&s=x11 A little back ground 6'1 300lbs 35yrs old 25%bf Describes the mood or content of the topic posted 03-20-06 08:18 PM My dr told me I have high blood pressure about a month ago and put me on meds. ( I took the meds for 2 days) I stopped my cycle so everything would go back to normal. I bought an omron blood pressure monitor and was testing my blood pressure. Turns out I had my arm up too high while taking the readings and the readings were normal. I started my cycle again 1000mg test, 20 mg halo and 600mg of EQ. I was feeling weird but since the bp monitor said everything is normal I ignored everything. I dropped the halo in hopes of felling better. Then I added abombs at 50mg per day for the last 2 days. Oh and 5iu of hgh 5 on 2 off and I switched the EQ for tritren (3 Tren esters) I went to the dr last week and he said my blood pressure was high and put me back on the meds and ordered a 24 hr bp monitor. I picked it up today and **** my bp fluctuates from 177/110 - 150/94. I think it takes a few weeks for the blood pressure meds to kick in. I dropped the abombs and I have to wait until the test/eq/tren filter out of my system. How long uintil I should retest to see if my numbers are going down.

21-03-2006, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,717	Oh man, you had high blood pressure so you added tren and a-bombs into that cycle? Man, you better be carefull with AAS and blood pressure. The number one cause of kidney failure is high blood pressure. The liver is chemical and the kidneys are mechanical, like a big filter. You damage that filter and it is damaged for life. My buddy got high blood pressure from gear and it took maybe 12 years to give it to him, he is off the gear and still on the blood pressure medication. Watch out for foamy urine, dark urine as this is a good indication of some damage or even blood in the urine. What ever you do dont get yourself all excited either, Tren is notorius for aggression and if you work yourself up too much you will have problems. Me, id drop the tren and abombs at least for now. Id even drop everything till you get this under control. Those kidneys you need for life. Dont take this as a dig but you need to be a bit more concerned here, strokes and all kinds of things happen with high blood pressure. Are your eyes bloodshot? Nosebleeds? __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

21-03-2006, 11:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,717	Sure they can tell if your kidneys are ok with a blood test. One reason I know is I was doing a test EQ cycle with some winstrol in there and ended up having blood in my urine. The Doc also said I had beginning stages of congestive heart failure. I was stressed out, driving long miles to see my daughter (6) in another State and could see my heartbeat in my chest. I had dark urine and was drinking lots of water at the time. Gave me a urine test at the doc office then they said I had blood in the urine, ketones and calcium. Gave me two meds and said to come back in a couple of weeks. Bummer was I just had a shot of enanthate and that takes some days to clear the system. I had another scare with just a short winstrol cycle too. I am pretty much done too. I am 46 an not as young and cant bounce back like I was when I was 22 It does not help drinking on cycles and smoking weed either but hell, nobody could tell this guy anything I know there are alot of guys that rant on how safe gear is and how bad smoking is but for some people it is bad. My buddy comming off gear for years had some of the worst depression I have ever seen in a person. This is common for guys doing very long cycles. They had my buddy on high blood pressure meds, cholesterol lowering meds, anti-depression meds, oh man he was in bad shape but looked really good Get a full blood panel after you are off and check it all out. Better safe than sorry. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. My Mom used to say that. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23-03-2006, 02:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,717	Oh man, first a couple of questions. Do you have testicular atrophy (small nuts) right now? What was your last shot and how much, and when? How much HCG do you have? How much clomid/nolvadex do you have? How long have you been on total? Did you take time off or did you like those long cycles? From the high blood pressure and the stress thing, sounds like you were on for a while. Do you have depression right now? Did you get your cholesterol checked and if so what were the numbers? Sorry, just want to get a picture in my mind of what is going on and why. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

24-03-2006, 03:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,717	Ok, lets just do it this way, I can tell by your high blood pressure and depression along with that lipid profile you are just like my friend was but his HDL was only 5 Time to come off for awhile or forever actually. mix the HCG and put it in 3 slin needles and make up 3 500iu shots. Take one shot today, one on Sunday and one on Wednesday. Take 20mg of Nolvadex for 30 days Day 31-35 10mg of nolva, day 36-40 5 mg nolva, 41-45 2.5mg nolva. For the first week I want you to take 1000iu of Vitamin E, this will help the HCG some, then take as recomended for awhile. I also want you to take some things to get that cholesterol in check, Gear will hammer lipid profile and I am surprised the HDL was not closer to 15 or even under. Take some Naicin the coated stuff so you dont get flush. Take 6-12 fish oils a day, with your meals, this will help your triglycerides and help with inflammation, homocysteine, c-reactive protein, depression, high blood pressure and some other things that you need right now. Take some B-12 injectables if you can find it. Folic Acid is good here for homocysteine too. You will need some antioxidants, and some vitamins now to help things along. A good clean diet too would not hurt here. Take some apple pectin too to help with your LDL's in lowering them. You can take some creatine now to help keep some of your gains while you are off. Honestly, this will help, your cardiovascular system is probably hammered right now and beings that you will have low test levels for awhile you need all the help you can get. Antioxidants are very important for you right now due to low HDL's This is going to take some time and you need to be in a low stress situation right now. Recovery might take some time but you will be ok in the long run. I have seen this happen before and I was in the same boat as you. I am not telling you to do anything that I would not be doing myself. This sucks bro, it is common and you now have some tools to combat it. Let me know how you feel in a months time. If it takes longer to recover, I have another idea too. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

21-03-2006, 11:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
ginkgo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7	Oh man, you had high blood pressure so you added tren and a-bombs into that cycle? I thought it was ok. My mistake. I've been cycling for the last 5 years. I'm stopping everything. I'm done. Is there anything that the blood test picked up about my kidneys? I am very concearned about all this. No nose bleeds and I my eyes are not blood shot.

22-03-2006, 12:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
ginkgo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7	Thanks hackskii. I am stressed out too. We'll see how it goes. But I know this was the last straw for me. I've been felling crappy for a while and all this on top of it. I'm done.

22-03-2006, 12:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
ginkgo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7	what type of diet shoud I follow?

23-03-2006, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
ginkgo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7	I have Clomid, nova, letro and hch. The letro is an Aromatase Inhibitor. Should I start that ? and... will that interfere with taking the blood pressure meds? Would Hch be of any benefit now?

25-03-2006, 09:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,717	That makes sense as you were probably had some water retention from the test. I think you should be ok taking the meds and the other stuff. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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