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Old 18-01-2004, 02:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Any thoughts?

My friend, 30 years, 193cm, 86kgs, wants to take a cure (first timer) i reccomended.....

1-8 10mgs d-bol per day
1-8 250mgs sustanon per week
1-8 50mgs winstrol twice per week

Any thoughts?
What should his pct be and how much per day?

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Old 18-01-2004, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not sure about the winny mate but a couple of people on here have said that this is a good first cycle

1 - 4 30mg d-bol ed
1 - 8 500mg sus pw

would not like to say anything about pct cause im not sure but i am sure that some of the guys on here will be able to help
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Yeah, robdog is pretty right there.

Could just try test on its own like

Wk 1-8 = sust @ 500mg EW

Just remember to tell your mate about nolva and clomid etc, as he will need them.
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He will have tamoxifen, 20 mgs per day, but how long after the cycle should he begine, and will that be enough?
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not sure about the winny mate but a couple of people on here have said that this is a good first cycle

1 - 4 30mg d-bol ed
1 - 8 500mg sus pw

would not like to say anything about pct cause im not sure but i am sure that some of the guys on here will be able to help
Why not the winny?:confused:
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Old 19-01-2004, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Use the winny week 9-12 before you stare PCT

This will harden up your gains and help with body Comp.

Not worth running during a bulker really. Also will do next to nothing if you only run it twice a week - Needs to be ran ED or EOD at the most

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Keep it simple for a first cycle, do

sust 500mg PW weeks 1-8
d-bol 30mg ED weeks 1-6

start clomid or nolva 3 weeks after the last shot of sust
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Old 19-01-2004, 02:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Simple it will be, thanks boyz!!
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