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Old 19-10-2005, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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deca and dbol stack

hi ppl just want some friendly advice. ive just started a deca and dbol stack for 10weeks. This is not my first cycle as i have been on 500mg of sust about 2 years ago. since then i have been of the stuff. for this cycle i will be using about 400mgs per week of deca from week1 to week10 and 30mgs of dbol per day from week4 to week10.

want do you think of this stack? what pct will i need. the source i got this stack from recommends that i use HCG, noladex and clomid at the end of cycle for a few week. but this is a problem due to money. so there for i was just thinking of using noladex alone at the end. would this be ok? if so how much would i need and how long for? want to keep most of my gains.
A few people i have chated to have said that i would not need any pct and the end because the doses that im using a fairly low, is this the case?

Also colud i get away with using 200mgs of deca per week? or use 200mgs of deca with 250mgs of test enanthate or sust

p.s my body weight is 200lbs but not lean as i carry excess weight around the mid section.

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Old 19-10-2005, 05:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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IMO, i wouldn't choose that stack especially if u been off it for about 2 years. I would start off with a test and dbol cycle first, then as a 2nd cycle add some deca @ 200mg, but bump for pro's
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Old 19-10-2005, 05:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You could do it one of two ways...

400mg deca aweek

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400mg shot of deca every second week(old skool method)

Deca & Dbol has built more physiques than any other stack so well worth using
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Old 19-10-2005, 05:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just run test with dbol for 10 weeks or so.

Use HCG and adex throughout.

Use nolva and clomid for PCT.

Have plenty of nolva on-hand just incase.

If you can't afford proper PCT, you can't afford the cycle.
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If your going to run Deca I would run Test with it at a higher dose, with a lot of people Deca can make you lose your sex drive on it. So the Test will help there. At worst run some Proviron with it this will help with sex drive, bloat and gyno.

Run the Test a week longer than the Deca as it tends to take longer to clear your system.

And the vital thing is make sure you do a good PCT, I would also use HCG through the cycle as well as at the end or with PCT.

Make sure you have plenty of Anti-E's especially if your doing Dbol as well.

But to be honest as said above as you haven't done a cycle for a long time run 500mg of Test and Dbol for 4 weeks to kick start and you will grow nicley if diet is in order, save the Deca until next time.
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you need to add test bro. replace deca for tren (the Gear of the Gods)

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If you can't afford proper PCT, you can't afford the cycle.
ditto, a soild pct is vital
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