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| LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Anyone Here Used T3? Hey fellas Just wondering if anyone here has used T3 and what their experiences were like. I have a bottle of Cynomel and I want to run a cutting cycle in the summer including Test Prop and Tren, but I don't want to lose ANY LBM if possible. ATM my cycle looks like this: Weeks 1-8: 100-150mg Test Prop EOD Weeks 1-6: 75mg Tren EOD Weeks 1-6: T3 (Taper) I will run my T3 like this: Days 1,2: 50mcgs Days 3,4: 75mcgs Days 5-11: 100 - 125mcgs (reduction of 7 days i.e. 1 week) Days 11-13 : 125mcgs (or 100 depends on your max) Days 14-16 : 100mcgs Days 17-19: 75mcgs Days 20-22: 50mcgs Days 23-28 : 37.5mcgs Days 29-33 : 25 mcgs Days 34-42 : 12.5 mcgs Currently around 170lbs @ 15-16% Bf (I will get back up to 180lbs after I get better from glandular fever, gonna go for my first session in about 5 weeks on Sunday) I wanna lose 5% bf and try to maintain my weight and strength. Cardio will be HIIT 3-4x a week Diet will be around 2,000kcals a day 60% Protein 20% Carbs and 20% Fat Any observations would be greatly appreciated. BTW this will be my 2nd cycle Cheers, Jock ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I will chime in. I am not expert on the juice nor the T3 I was looking in to the T3 with doing the HGH as it makes you hypothroid but after reading about it, I would not consider it. You can do the same thing with diet. The problem with the T3 I see is when you put sythetic thyroid medication your own thyroid tends to shut down. Just like AAS and natural testosterone levels. I have never used tren nor the prop. My favorite was the cyp myself but that is just me. It tends to elivate my blood pressure and make my face red, but I sure feel good on that stuff. Like superman. I would get bigger on a bulk cycle then diet off the fat and do some cardio. Lets see what the other chaps have to say. HGH also kindof rips off the fat pretty good while not losing any of your lean muscle mass. Cheers Jock ![]()
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| UK-Muscle Moderator | how long can you take this for because ive heard that if you take it to long your thyroid gland messes up permanently
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | a lot of those stories are bullsh*t bro, I've looked into it and permanent thyroid damage from T3 is very uncommon. About 8 weeks is the max but you have to taper up and down slowly. Jock
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| UK-Muscle Moderator | thanks jock its hard to know whats what with all the different stories that go about. saying that though i do trust people on this board. i also heard that you should start on a weaker drug first if you want to use things like this, is this bull also cheers
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Here ya go bro.... The following is exerpted from Nandi12's article on T3 at http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/main.php?issueID=11 "Like the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, the thyroid gland is under negative feedback control. When T3 levels go up, TSH secretion is suppressed. This is the mechanism whereby exogenous thyroid hormone suppresses natural thyroid hormone production. There is a difference though between the way anabolic steroids suppress natural testosterone production and the way T3 suppresses the thyroid. With steroids, the longer and heavier the cycle is, the longer your natural testosterone is suppressed. This is not the case with exogenous thyroid hormone. An early study that looked at thyroid function and recovery under the influence of exogenous thyroid hormone was undertaken by Greer (2). He looked at patients who were misdiagnosed as being hypothyroid and put on thyroid hormone replacement for as long as 30 years. When the medication was withdrawn, their thyroids quickly returned to normal. Here is a remark about Greer's classic paper from a later author: "In 1951, Greer reported the pattern of recovery of thyroid function after stopping suppressive treatment with thyroid hormone in euthyroid [normal] subjects based on sequential measurements of their thyroidal uptake of radioiodine. He observed that after withdrawal of exogenous thyroid therapy, thyroid function, in terms of radioiodine uptake, returned to normal in most subjects within two weeks. He further observed that thyroid function returned as rapidly in those subjects whose glands had been depressed by several years of thyroid medication as it did in those whose gland had been depressed for only a few days" (3) These results have been subsequently verified in several studies.(3)(4) So contrary to what has been stated in the bodybuilding literature, there is no evidence that long term thyroid supplementation will somehow damage your thyroid gland. Nevertheless, most bodybuilders will choose to cycle their T3 (or T4 which in most cases works just as well) as part of a cutting strategy, since T3 is catabolic with respect to muscle just as it is with fat. As previously mentioned, long term T3 induced hyperthyroidism is also catabolic. Cheers, Jock
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| Looking Freaky | All the guys I know who have/do take t3 do o whilst on a cycle and often using GH.. it is vital to be on the gear whilst running t3 otherwise u will loose a lot of LBM. one thing I find effective is that post cycle I go straight into using ECA for 2 weeks and then Clen for two - finish cycle 2weeks ECA 2weeks Clen 2weeks ECA 2weeks Clen They have a good anticatabolic effect so help you keep your gains as well as upping your metabolic rate and so are good for shifting the fat. some people find that they gain strength and size using clen.... |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I run Clen like this: start off at 40mcg and increase the dosage by 20mcg every 3 days until I hit 120mcgs and then I switch with an ECA. Is it ok to run clen and ECA like this whilst on T3? Cheers, Jock
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