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  1. #31
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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    in your 11 months off did you use any other meds pscarb?

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    i used GH/IGF but no steroids at all....
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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    was there a great difference in your physique and strength whilst you were of steroids and just using igf and gh?

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    is there a chance that you could not recover at all?

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    bit the majority are ok




    i see what your saying, but thats like saying smoking may cause heart desease and/or cancer

    the thing is, if something is going to go wrong with the body...it may/may not happen with or without constant use of steriods

    i wont advise one way, or the other

    if we are talking recovery however...then time on = time off seems to be the best way forward

    but is it the fastest, best way to grow???

    its a risk some are prepared to take

    its also a risk some are taking without realising it

    because to recover fully....we need to take months and months off

    pct + a few weeks clean will never do it




    the kev levrone, shaun ray thing sticks in my mind

    constantly on for 8 months of the year....off gear/gym/wholesome food for the rest of the year

    this works for more than a few people i know

    i feel that cycles with a small clean period cant be classed as recovery...so why not stay on for a good period of time...then have a decent break afterwards...you will shrink...but it comes back with interest!!

    so a year on???? why not...just take a good 6 months off after

    there are so many ways round it

    but as i said above....nothing makes progress like staying on

    but as jjb says...what if????

    roulette anyone? LOL

    Too true and my mentality.

    You speak wise words Jimmy.

    Once I get my head around the fact that I am small, weak and fat, I'm fine but after 5 months off going back on is like nothing on earth....You literally can see yourself growing daily.

    I stay on for around 25-30 weeks total in any given year due to my contest schedule, then the rest of the time is off.

    Even then it would take a good 18-24 months to get everything back to normal. Coming off for 8 weeks is fine to give the liver, kidneys etc a break but the endocrine system will take months and months.

    Dont kid yourself that you've recovered, cos you will be talking sh1te.

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    Quote Originally Posted by supercell View Post
    Once I get my head around the fact that I am small, weak and fat, I'm fine but after 5 months off going back on is like nothing on earth....You literally can see yourself growing daily.
    BINGO!!

    every person i know has done this has EXACTLY the same experiences, inc myself

    going back on again is like the first cycle you ever did...the gains are enormous

    when the body gets used to a drug...it eventually needs more....in the same way...the longer the 'lay off' any drug used, the better it works when administration is resumed

    a good example is alcohol

    go out drinking loads and you get a tollerance

    stop drinking for a few months and you get smashed on a few shandys

    so long cycles (4 months plus) can/may require higher doses at the end of the cycle in comparrison to the beginning....but after a long lay off one can gain like a weed in the rain, with a relatively low/moderate dose...and then some!!!

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    i will atest to this as this is what happened to me when i took 11months off....
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    Question Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    dose anyone bridge between cycles with a hrt dose of of test?

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    if you use any test between cycles then you do not come off HRT doses work for HRT patients not Young bodybuilders as the dose will still effect the HPTA....bridging is a word that was thought up by those who did not want to come off steroids...
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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    pscarb - just out of interest whats your base line testostrone levels natrualy?

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    the last time i had my bloods carried out the test was 25.6 that was after 10 weeks off cycle, i have not had them done again yet still to close to my last course.
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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    Quote Originally Posted by Pscarb View Post
    bridging is a word that was thought up by those who did not want to come off steroids...

    very true

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    I wonder if the gains from a year of 8 months on 4 months off would equal that of a year of short courses.

    I might have to try the first method to see.
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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinytom View Post
    I wonder if the gains from a year of 8 months on 4 months off would equal that of a year of short courses.

    I might have to try the first method to see.
    as long as you switch compounds I dont see why not ,I belive that longer cycles give youre body chance to get hold of the gains youve made

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    Re: Does anyone stay on all year round??

    Any more views on long cycles

 

 
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