James Llewellin's Off Season Strength and Mass Journal - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

supercell · 10-03-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DB

300kg dead would be impressive! now i aint one to comment on you dude as your are far more advanced than me.. but watch the waist with those heavy deads! dont want to get too thick! i got up2 260kg on deads but u could see my waist getting wider so knocked it back to around the 200kg mark for more reps

just a thought

p.s

good to se u back on the board! although i dont always post on your journal i always read every post just dont wanna spam up your thread

I am hearing you brother. Something I am aware of and will be keeping an eye on for sure. As for 300kgs dead, I have more chance of winning the lottery TBH but it gives me a target.

supercell · 10-03-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinytom

Thats a good training plan James

I did pretty much that split last year in the off season and it worked very well

Too many people think about training a body in a week, well you cant do that and expect to grow freaky big because of the rest needed.

See you soon at Skyline.

I'd love to say it was my idea but unfortunately it wsn't, Matt takes the credit there although we were thinking along similar lines.

TBH we were both just starting to get a little over trained after 8 weeks of a 7 day split. This seems just about perfect and gives me my weekends free to spend with my lovely wife.

Looking forward to seeing you again mate, lots to catch up on plus killing each other in the gym is fun!

:lift:

J

supercell · 10-03-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine Pack

Journal junkie :smokin:

.....And just as I'd conquered my cardio addiction too. Oh well this one burns far fewer calories plus I get the bonus of viewing porn simultaneously; life aint all bad you know.

J

jjb1 · 10-03-2008, 10:30 PM

i always take weekends off with my 7 day splitt 2on 1off 2on 2off

same as dorian yates i belive when he trained for olympia

i have considered day on day off though

Nine Pack · 11-03-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by supercell

I'd love to say it was my idea but unfortunately it wsn't, Matt takes the credit there although we were thinking along similar lines.

TBH we were both just starting to get a little over trained after 8 weeks of a 7 day split. This seems just about perfect and gives me my weekends free to spend with my lovely wife.

Looking forward to seeing you again mate, lots to catch up on plus killing each other in the gym is fun!

:lift:

J

Hang on a minute I've been advocating the one on, one off, nine day four way split rotation for ages. Didn't listen to me then did you?! Bugga

Anyway James, on a serious note, DB has a point. From some angles on the show pics, your midline looks to be getting thicker so don't go crazy with them deads.

I'm going to make one last plea & to hell with the flaming I might get from the 'yes men', I only have your best interests at heart James so please don't get offended;

STOP TRAINING YOUR ARMS!! They are overpowering the rest of your physique & throwing your symmetry right off. I know you love training with Matt & it does you both a lot of good, but you have different goals & different physiques so you can't both train the same & expect it to be perfect. You could do with sitting back, taking an honest look at your physique & asking which bodyparts actually need to be improved, and equally importantly, which parts do not.

Simply training every bodypart all the time just because that's what most people do is never going to iron out your symmetry. It may be a bit boring but a restricted split, allowing all the stimulation, rest & recuperation to be concentrated on the lagging bodyparts is IMO, the only way for you to go from here if you truly want to exploit your full potential. Training every bodypart just 'because' will dilute the progress you could make on the lagging parts & serve to further highlight the imbalances.

The untrained parts will still get enough stimulation to maintain from the other sessions & with your diet nailed, you will NOT lose any muscle in those areas.

There, I've said it. Ultimately, it's your decision but I hope you know why I'm saying this to you. It's because I'm a good friend, and will never be a 'yes man'. Speak soon (unless you are p1ssed at me

)

Galtonator · 11-03-2008, 08:21 AM

I have used this split for a good few months as well thanks to some advice from Troy Brown via email and its much better for recovery

Ollie B · 11-03-2008, 09:32 AM

Im glad your doing another journal James. I learn so much from them.

Incredible Bulk · 11-03-2008, 12:33 PM

just made my day when i saw a new journal...great stuff james

supercell · 11-03-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine Pack

Hang on a minute I've been advocating the one on, one off, nine day four way split rotation for ages. Didn't listen to me then did you?! Bugga

Anyway James, on a serious note, DB has a point. From some angles on the show pics, your midline looks to be getting thicker so don't go crazy with them deads.

I'm going to make one last plea & to hell with the flaming I might get from the 'yes men', I only have your best interests at heart James so please don't get offended;

STOP TRAINING YOUR ARMS!! They are overpowering the rest of your physique & throwing your symmetry right off. I know you love training with Matt & it does you both a lot of good, but you have different goals & different physiques so you can't both train the same & expect it to be perfect. You could do with sitting back, taking an honest look at your physique & asking which bodyparts actually need to be improved, and equally importantly, which parts do not.

Simply training every bodypart all the time just because that's what most people do is never going to iron out your symmetry. It may be a bit boring but a restricted split, allowing all the stimulation, rest & recuperation to be concentrated on the lagging bodyparts is IMO, the only way for you to go from here if you truly want to exploit your full potential. Training every bodypart just 'because' will dilute the progress you could make on the lagging parts & serve to further highlight the imbalances.

The untrained parts will still get enough stimulation to maintain from the other sessions & with your diet nailed, you will NOT lose any muscle in those areas.

There, I've said it. Ultimately, it's your decision but I hope you know why I'm saying this to you. It's because I'm a good friend, and will never be a 'yes man'. Speak soon (unless you are p1ssed at me

)

Hey Paul,

How could I be ****ed at you mate?

I WILL not train my arms, I totally agree.

As for the split, yes you have advocated that in the past how could i forget (I think at the time I ignored you!!

)

As for mid section, I was heavily bloated in States, only just going now!! Right up to a week out my midsection was tight, infact Sarah thought it was smaller (prob cos the rest of me was bigger

).

I just fcuked up in the States and held a sh1t load of water in my abdomen, just as I often do for a few weeks following a show.

I will as I said keep an eye on things but my diet for the British will be brutal, full doesn't suit me. Yes it looks great in the gym but not good on the stage, so lesson No1 learnt.

As we said the U.S was always a little bit of an experiment but I now know that being depleted coming into the final week and hitting a good carb up is the way for me to go and I'd think you'd agree (looking back at the Gravesend in 2006 and the British in 2007).

Its a harder diet but as you know I am not afraid of that. This show just gone has served notice for me. As you well know I am part machine and I will do as I am programmed to do by you

.

That starts with no arm training, on a positive note though that means even less training and even more rest. Bring it on!!!

Sometimes your ideas are OK you know ;-)

J

LOCUST · 11-03-2008, 02:49 PM

Thanks for doing another journal James, i learn so much too.

I know you know this anyway but by expressing yourself via your journal, lets you rant and say what you feel about training/ deit etc.

When i was cutting i did a journal to be totally honest it kept me motivated (not that your not lol) and on the right track and my cut wouldnt have been as much of a success as it was if i didnt do a journal !!!!!

looking forward to reading it mate !

Nine Pack · 11-03-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by supercell

Hey Paul,

How could I be ****ed at you mate?

I WILL not train my arms, I totally agree.

As for the split, yes you have advocated that in the past how could i forget (I think at the time I ignored you!!

)

As for mid section, I was heavily bloated in States, only just going now!! Right up to a week out my midsection was tight, infact Sarah thought it was smaller (prob cos the rest of me was bigger

).

I just fcuked up in the States and held a sh1t load of water in my abdomen, just as I often do for a few weeks following a show.

I will as I said keep an eye on things but my diet for the British will be brutal, full doesn't suit me. Yes it looks great in the gym but not good on the stage, so lesson No1 learnt.

As we said the U.S was always a little bit of an experiment but I now know that being depleted coming into the final week and hitting a good carb up is the way for me to go and I'd think you'd agree (looking back at the Gravesend in 2006 and the British in 2007).

Its a harder diet but as you know I am not afraid of that. This show just gone has served notice for me. As you well know I am part machine and I will do as I am programmed to do by you

.

That starts with no arm training, on a positive note though that means even less training and even more rest. Bring it on!!!

Sometimes your ideas are OK you know ;-)

J

Thanks buddy. I really want to see you make the most of your potential, and I truly believe that you can take your physique much further.

I look forward to helping you for the british 'keeping it under the radar' & then unveiling the results at Nottingham. Bring it on!! BTW, for the British, you have to have my gym logo tattooed on your glutes!

jjb1 · 11-03-2008, 03:40 PM

imo your so packed of muscle you do not need to try and grasp that full look your HUGE dry as a bone bro

but i did think ya looked good in all your pics ;-)

maccer · 11-03-2008, 04:04 PM

look forward to following this and learning some more

**Nytol** · 11-03-2008, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DB

300kg dead would be impressive! now i aint one to comment on you dude as your are far more advanced than me.. but watch the waist with those heavy deads! dont want to get too thick! i got up2 260kg on deads but u could see my waist getting wider so knocked it back to around the 200kg mark for more reps

Are you sure the nice people at KFC were not more to blame than the deads, :confused:

Con · 11-03-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nytol

Are you sure the nice people at KFC were not more to blame than the deads, :confused:

LOL

Great to have you do another journal James i read every one through

Deadlifts widening the waist well i dont know about that i have always pulled very heavy and have seen no thickening on the obliques only the lower back, that said i have always worn a belt perhaps raw there could be a difference i do not know.