rankinc

About 9 months ago I was going a fly on flat bench. When I extended my arms my left shoulder gave way, I was in agony with it but never went to see a doc (even though I should have done). The pain was around the socket of my shoulder and also down the muscle by the tricep. I had the pain for a couple of months and it slowly eased off, but never fully went.

After a long lay off I went back the gym to test my endurance. I went staright for the fly machine and only put 20kg just to get the muscles and joints working again. Got to about 4 reps and then it went again. It felt like my arm popped out of the socket, I had shooting pains down the back of my arm and around my elbow. Woke up this morning in agony, gradually through the day the pained as worn off but I've got limited movement in my left arm now and a constant dull ache around the elbow and down, what feels like, the tricep.

Tomorrow I'm going to a NHS walk in centre where I will more than likely get referred to the A&E, but what should I do about training. I really enjoy working out and was pshyced to be going back the gym for the first time. Would people recommend to lay off until I find out what the extent of my injury is or train with very light weights.

TIA

SportDr

You need a referral to an Orthopaedic consultant as it sounds like you have torn your rotator cuff. This is a 8-9 month injury that will require a complete lay off from weights. Exercises may be done with the weight of the arm only and only after a period of complete rest.

Flat flyes are second only to flat bench for wrecking rotator cuffs, so you have a classic injury there.

You may train abs and legs but no lifting plates!! so on machines only.

When you are recovered, get a PT to organise a programme for you for a nominal fee, Ninepack shares my philosophies regarding treatment and training, so I recommend you E-Mail him before you get back to the gym.

hth

SD

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invisiblekid

I smell a "I told you so" from Nine!

I gotta agree with the Doc here.

I don't think a walk in centre will do much for you other than tell you to gobble anti inflammatorys and cocoadamol (sp?).

I think your GP is the best bet - even though they are shocking in my experience. Tell them your whole experience from the first injury. I wouldn't accept the usual reply of "wait 3 weeks then come back if its no better". All GP's are interesting in is making the pain go away. They couldn't give a stuff if you train again or not.

When I told my GP how I injured my back deadlifting her response was "dead-stupid-lift if you ask me". Great. That really helps.

Stay away from the weights.

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Robsta

I know it's not the way to do it, but my rotator cuff went and I just trained through it, it's still not fully healed and I benched 210 on sat,
Mine always goes if I go heavy on the shoulder press....

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invisiblekid

I actually have a slight strain in my rotator cuff, had for a while. Hurts to push in a certain direction. As long as I stay away from fixed machines and the Smith machine for incline bench, shoulder press etc...I'm fine.

As Robsta said though, it's not the way to do it.

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Nine Pack

Hardcore! You are the "it's only a flesh wound" kind of guy I suspect. In my early days I did some crazy stuff in the gym & god only knows how I didn't kill myself. I had the 'if it can't take it, let it snap' approach to weights.

Rankinc, I think you need to go & see a private consultant if you want anything done within a reasonable timeframe. If you have health insurance it should cover it, but even if not, I'd consider it money well spent.



Oh, and purely for Invisibles sake, I don't really mean it;
"TOLD YOU SO".

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rankinc

Fair play to the staff in the Walk-In centres. They gave me an examination and identifed it has the injury you all identified. Been told told take ibuprofen and paracetamol for 3 days and then book an appointment with my GP who will refer me for an xray at the hospital. Otherwise I would have waited hours in A&E. Seeing has it is only a slight injury I think i'm going to train through it, using very light weights on various machines.

Cheers for the advice everyone.

SportDr

X-Ray??? I hope not, an MRI is what you need but they often have long waiting lists so good luck. As for it being a light injury, your shoulder giving way isn't light, its a catastrophe, you shouldn't be doing any weights on that joint until you have had the MRI, but its your shoulder mate

SD

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