Subacromial Bursa - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Lee · 12-10-2006, 09:16 AM

Im still here (if anyone noticed id gone lol)

Ive injured my shoulder again, 2nd time now ive had rotator cuff problems. (my own stupid fault this time though).

heres where the doctor says ive injured.. (the larger muscle).

Had a 3 month lay off from the gym, had another cortisone injection in the shoulder nearly 3 weeks ago.

Pain has gone, regaining more and more movement in the shoulder as the day does on.

Doctor did say that deca would speed up the recovery process, but he doesnt agree with the sides.

how long should i leave weights alone for once the pain has gone? or can i return straight away?

thanks for any advice in advance

Magic Torch · 13-10-2006, 10:45 AM

Hi Lee, long time no hear!

Mate I would go to a proper Physio, just because the Doctor will help the injury but a Physio with help sport specific.

I would imagine that a month off after the pain stops would do you good, use this time to see the physio and see if they can help give you things to do to ease your return.

My old training partner had a really bad shoulder injury (simalar to yours) and he had physio and still does some of the things they showed him now 2 years later to keep his shoulder good.

Welcome back dude!

DB · 13-10-2006, 10:52 AM

yeah i thought u had been layin low!!! sorry to hear about that injury mate!

the_gre8t_1ne · 13-10-2006, 11:33 AM

yeah man, that sux as it holds u back! I would also try IGF as i thnk it has repairing tissue, Hackski has more info

**hackskii** · 13-10-2006, 04:27 PM

Bummer dude.
Have a similar injury.

I think stuff like hyaluronic acid would be a very good option here.
I am taking that at the moment.
Also, no kidding i have done several bottles of IGF-1 and my shoulder has never felt better in the last 3 years.

Sounds like you hurt that doing bench or inclines going too heavy.
Probably a muscle imballance due to your pulling is not as strong as your pushing.
I have a few exercises if you are interested, which should be pretty helpfull.

You are going to have to strengthen your rear delts and rhomboids.
This injury will take some time to heal.
Do nothing that aggrivates it or you will only lengthen the healing time, by 6-8 weeks.

Did you do that in bench or inclines?

Lee · 13-10-2006, 04:45 PM

Thanks lads

Thats how i hurt it above, i was comfortably doing it with a 32.5kg DB an the lad i was training with talking me into doing a 42.5kg DB but extending right back and touching the floor with the DB (bad mistake).

On the way back up my shoulder popped an then made a cracking noise, i dropped the DB an have been in pain since.

Gutted really as i had made some decent progress in the previous 12-16 months.

Anythin to help would be great

**hackskii** · 13-10-2006, 05:48 PM

The pop might not have been that bad but the cracking noise would send off alarm bells.

Pull overs are really a isolation movement for expanding the chest and are done with a huge breath held in and works some siratis(sp) I do them at the end of my chest workout but I never go heavy in them.

What did the ortho tell you to do?
Did he say this injury will heal 100%?

SportDr · 15-10-2006, 08:11 PM

You found out the hard way Lee and I am sorry to hear about your injury it can be very depressing!

My girlfriend is a physio, I will ask her what she thinks later, but for now REST REST and REST some more. Massage and heat application will help, supplements may play a role if your diet isn't complete. As for Deca etc, your ****ed of already do you want roid rage/depression on top of that? prob not.

For any Noobs reading the post, NEVER TAKE A WEIGHT BEYOND WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT IN YOUR PERIPHERAL VISION. or in other words, no weights behind the neck, shoulder press, lat pulldown, PULLOVERS etc AND do not take your elbows below the midline of your body during chest press, there are much safer and just as effective alternatives/modifications to these exercises.

Your shoulder wasnt designed for it and although you got away with it this long the damage MAY be cumulative until one day POP!

SD

Just spoke to GF, she says dont massage it it will aggravate the injury, you need ultrasound!

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Magic Torch UK-M Swimsuit model Join Date: May 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 4,901 Blog Entries: 5	Hi Lee, long time no hear! Mate I would go to a proper Physio, just because the Doctor will help the injury but a Physio with help sport specific. I would imagine that a month off after the pain stops would do you good, use this time to see the physio and see if they can help give you things to do to ease your return. My old training partner had a really bad shoulder injury (simalar to yours) and he had physio and still does some of the things they showed him now 2 years later to keep his shoulder good. Welcome back dude! __________________ intentionally blank

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hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Bummer dude. Have a similar injury. I think stuff like hyaluronic acid would be a very good option here. I am taking that at the moment. Also, no kidding i have done several bottles of IGF-1 and my shoulder has never felt better in the last 3 years. Sounds like you hurt that doing bench or inclines going too heavy. Probably a muscle imballance due to your pulling is not as strong as your pushing. I have a few exercises if you are interested, which should be pretty helpfull. You are going to have to strengthen your rear delts and rhomboids. This injury will take some time to heal. Do nothing that aggrivates it or you will only lengthen the healing time, by 6-8 weeks. Did you do that in bench or inclines? __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	The pop might not have been that bad but the cracking noise would send off alarm bells. Pull overs are really a isolation movement for expanding the chest and are done with a huge breath held in and works some siratis(sp) I do them at the end of my chest workout but I never go heavy in them. What did the ortho tell you to do? Did he say this injury will heal 100%? __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

15-10-2006, 08:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	You found out the hard way Lee and I am sorry to hear about your injury it can be very depressing! My girlfriend is a physio, I will ask her what she thinks later, but for now REST REST and REST some more. Massage and heat application will help, supplements may play a role if your diet isn't complete. As for Deca etc, your ***ed of already do you want roid rage/depression on top of that? prob not. For any Noobs reading the post, NEVER TAKE A WEIGHT BEYOND WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT IN YOUR PERIPHERAL VISION. or in other words, no weights behind the neck, shoulder press, lat pulldown, PULLOVERS etc AND do not take your elbows below the midline of your body during chest press, there are much safer and just as effective alternatives/modifications to these exercises. Your shoulder wasnt designed for it and although you got away with it this long the damage MAY be cumulative until one day POP! SD Just spoke to GF, she says dont massage it it will aggravate the injury, you need ultrasound! __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper* A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819 Last edited by SportDr; 15-10-2006 at 08:55 PM. Reason: Additonal info