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08-05-2008, 03:39 PM
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| Body weight x protien weight? how many grams of protein do you consume a day and what is your weight in lbs.
i weigh 190lbs and consume about 350-390g a day.
looking to find out how people calculate there protien intake. i have read many variations of how much protein you should consume per bodyweight etc. I just want to know what people actually do take a day.
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08-05-2008, 09:35 PM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? 2 grams protein per pound of bodyweight...IMO
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08-05-2008, 09:56 PM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? Quote:
Originally Posted by cellaratt 2 grams protein per pound of bodyweight...IMO | If you really want to grow and get strong, this is excellent advice.
A lot of people will pop along shortly saying that half of that is ample... and it may be for some people... but for most, boatloading the protein is a great way to grow.
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08-05-2008, 10:05 PM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? 2 main considerations
1 - what your body composition is
2 - what you are ingesting with protein
so fat man of 250lb and 35% body fat will not have the same nitrogen turnover and therefore protein requirements of a man who is down to the bone at 250lbs, the latter will 99 times out of a hundred turnover more protein
second point. the more additional caloires from other macros (fats and carbs) you ingest, the lower the grams of protein required
so when dieting people OFTEN crank protein up and carbs are lowered.
If you are though having 600-700g of carbs ED they become very sparing in terms of the degradation and 'incorrect usage' of th protein, therefore you will need less
I personally feel very few recreational trainers need over 250g of protein and should utilise other macros to make up the short fall of caloires
steroid users, BBers dieting and very heavily muscled people may need more
no point having too many grams of protein and not having enough carbs and vice versa
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09-05-2008, 07:49 AM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? cheers for the input.
i have been thinking for a while that i have been consuming to much protein for my weight. i was taking to much protein in my shakes.
do you think for my weight i should consume less protein or keep it the same? |
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09-05-2008, 07:53 AM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? Quote:
Originally Posted by amurphy cheers for the input.
i have been thinking for a while that i have been consuming to much protein for my weight. i was taking to much protein in my shakes.
do you think for my weight i should consume less protein or keep it the same? | Try shifting the focus from shakes to real foods but keep protein in the same ballpark IMO. It should be trivially easy to get at least 200-250g of protein from real food in a day, and then use the shakes to top it up if you can't handle any more meat and/or for PWO shakes if you so desire.
Real food should make up at least 75% of your protein intake IMO (that's not a scientific number, I just plucked it out of thin air BTW).
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09-05-2008, 07:57 AM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? There are many secondary benifits to getting your protien from real foods compaired to powders.
Theres lots of aminos/nuturents that are in real foods that are difficult if not impossible to replicated in powders. So if you get the majority of your daily protien from powders your missing out on this. Plus it tastes better.
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09-05-2008, 08:28 AM
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| | With all due respect
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? Agree with both the above
instead of working on numbers lets have a look at a sample day of what you eat and see if its suitable for your stats, goals and lifestyle
bullet point it
time form
food choice
portion size
where training falls
that is far better than trying to work out numbers
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09-05-2008, 09:21 AM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? cheers again.
here is what protien i take a day
6am scrambled egg(5 eggs with only 2 yolks) 50g shake fast acting
8am 1/2 tin tuna
10am 50g shake
12pm 1 tin a tuna
2pm 1/2 tin a tuna
4pm 50g shake
6pm PWO 50g shake
7pm dinner usually omellete, steak, cajun chicken
9pm 50g shake
so i suppose 250g comes from shakes, 150 from food. i think i will need to alter this big time. going with your advice i think i need to drop the shakes during the day and replace it with more tuna, chicken breast, ham etc and just the leave the shakes to breakfast, PWO and before bed. |
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09-05-2008, 09:45 AM
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| | With all due respect
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? Yes my friend but if you read my post above Quote:
2 main considerations
1 - what your body composition is 2 - what you are ingesting with protein
so fat man of 250lb and 35% body fat will not have the same nitrogen turnover and therefore protein requirements of a man who is down to the bone at 250lbs, the latter will 99 times out of a hundred turnover more protein
second point. the more additional caloires from other macros (fats and carbs) you ingest, the lower the grams of protein required
so when dieting people OFTEN crank protein up and carbs are lowered.
If you are though having 600-700g of carbs ED they become very sparing in terms of the degradation and 'incorrect usage' of th protein, therefore you will need less
I personally feel very few recreational trainers need over 250g of protein and should utilise other macros to make up the short fall of caloires
steroid users, BBers dieting and very heavily muscled people may need more
no point having too many grams of protein and not having enough carbs and vice versa
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09-05-2008, 10:31 AM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? ok, here is what i consume with my protein
6am- scrambled egg, 1 slice wholemeal toast, 50g shake
8am- 50g shake and extra virgin oil
10am- slice wholemeal toast, 1/2 tin of tuna
12pm- 2 slice wholemeal toast, tin tuna
2pm-1 slice wholemeal toast, 1/2 tin tuna
4pm- 50g shake
6pm-PWO banana/pineapple, 50g shake
7pm- baked potato chilli cheese(this is what i had last night)
9pm-50g shake.
i did a thread not so long ago about timed carbs and was going to try this as i have stag do in Ibiza coming up and didn't want to bulk as much but after reading a few more threads i decided against it as i am 6ft 3 and for my weight it was notted that i should alter my diet for my height/weight.
after the stag do my aim is to up my calories gradually every week so this is why i was replacing meals with shakes so i still had the protein element and not the carbs. i intend to gradually replace the shakes with meals protein/carbs/fats and then gradually up the amount of food for each meal so i am consuming 4000 cals a day.
so should i continue to keep the shakes until after my holiday? |
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09-05-2008, 11:51 AM
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| | With all due respect
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? i think you are misundertsanding the role of shakes and that they are only added for convenience
If you are going to try and bulk up eat more carbs, less protein as a ratio in comparison to your existing regime
up essential fats and include red meat and whole eggs
fresh veg and fruit is always a must
the diet is very bland, very lacking and can be improved
your goals are your goals, but end of the day you need to focus on the issues listed, not place the emphasis on protein powder
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09-05-2008, 12:42 PM
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| Re: Body weight x protien weight? Sounds like a tuna, bread and shake diet.
You need to eat more rice, potatoes, chicken, fish, nuts, peanut butter, veggiess. etc.. etc..
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