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Old 13-01-2010, 10:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HCG for Protodrol PCT? Best liver protection?

Hello all,
I'm thinking of doing my first ever cycle. Thinking of Protodrol (50mg a day for 30 days). I've read everything I can find on PCT, I understand Protodrol has less severe sides than other compounds, but am concerned about the chance of my nads shrinking.

Should HCG be included in PCT for Protodrol?

Also, what are the very best products for liver protection? Milk Thistle? Liv52? Or is there something else that’s better?

Thanks very much in advance for any replies,
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Old 14-01-2010, 09:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: HCG for Protodrol PCT? Best liver protection?

Your nads shrinking is entirely person dependant. Some people have atrophy whilst on cycle whilst others dont; tbh theres not a great deal you can do about it.

Running HCG through this cycle is overkill and definately not needed.

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Nolva: 20/20/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/50

Liver protection: Drink cranberry juice

Not seen any UK logs of protodrol but plenty in the states, seems like the gains are good at 50/50/50/50, would be interested to see how this one goes.
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Old 14-01-2010, 05:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello mate,
thanks very much, mark
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No worries mate, let us know how your cycle goes, results from the US sound promising .
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Re: HCG for Protodrol PCT? Best liver protection?

i had pain in my liver when taking dianabol liv 52 sorted it out. hope it helps
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Good advice from Nothing2fear there mate, no need for HCG on any oral cycle really!
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i had pain in my liver when taking dianabol liv 52 sorted it out. hope it helps
Each to their own when it comes to running on cycle support. Some take liv 52 or some form of cycle assist but then some argue it causes more strain on the liver

I personally just drink cranberry juice to help detoxify the liver, probably find several litres of that is alot cheaper too
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Re: HCG for Protodrol PCT? Best liver protection?

I did protodrol for 30 days, used oct pct for 2 weeks after, no probs at all really enjoyed it
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I thought you didn`t get any pain or indication from your liver except from just before liver failure?
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I thought you didn`t get any pain or indication from your liver except from just before liver failure?
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Thread I read the other day somewhere said a large percentage of pain within the back region is purely muscular and not the organs. I always thought pain in your liver = immenent bright light and purly gates personally.
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Thread I read the other day somewhere said a large percentage of pain within the back region is purely muscular and not the organs. I always thought pain in your liver = immenent bright light and purly gates personally.
I used to think that, but apparently pain under your rite rib is an indication that your liver is aggravated....Interesting about the cranberry as a liver detoxifier- never knew that, I thought it was just good for the kidneys and urinary tract...
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I used to think that, but apparently pain under your rite rib is an indication that your liver is aggravated....Interesting about the cranberry as a liver detoxifier- never knew that, I thought it was just good for the kidneys and urinary tract...
Does that and the liver , along with celery juice to lower blood pressure. I generally drink cranberry juice anyway now, but for the price of these liver protection supps it works out expensive, cheaper to buy the cranberry juice imo.

I never knew that about the liver, cheers for that bud!
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Does that and the liver , along with celery juice to lower blood pressure. I generally drink cranberry juice anyway now, but for the price of these liver protection supps it works out expensive, cheaper to buy the cranberry juice imo.

I never knew that about the liver, cheers for that bud!
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Re: HCG for Protodrol PCT? Best liver protection?

Protodrol is not very suppressive or harmful to the liver so it is not a compound you need to take HCG for in my view as the user above reported being fine on just a 2 week PCT.
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thanks very much for all the info everyone,
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