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Old 18-01-2010, 11:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: HCG for Protodrol PCT? Best liver protection?

Yeah it was a long time ago (1994)when i was 14.Whenever i sat down in a car mainly.Like the uneducated fool i am started tking liver tabs from holland and barret which work your liver harder so this just made it worse.Asked a guy down the gym what to do he gave me some liv 52 and it went in a couple of days.and that was that
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:44 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Does that and the liver , along with celery juice to lower blood pressure. I generally drink cranberry juice anyway now, but for the price of these liver protection supps it works out expensive, cheaper to buy the cranberry juice imo.

I never knew that about the liver, cheers for that bud!


Cranberry juice or extract plays no role in liver health. It may be good for kidney health particularly for urinary tract infections. It may play a role in and is in research now for possible benefits to the cardiovascular system and immune system, and as anti-cancer agents.
Protodrol won't require support supplements according to the manufactorers website but it wouldn't hurt. They do recommend a over the counter PCT. HCG is definitely not suggested for this product.
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Cranberry juice or extract plays no role in liver health. It may be good for kidney health particularly for urinary tract infections. It may play a role in and is in research now for possible benefits to the cardiovascular system and immune system, and as anti-cancer agents.
Protodrol won't require support supplements according to the manufactorers website but it wouldn't hurt. They do recommend a over the counter PCT. HCG is definitely not suggested for this product.

I agree, cranberry juice works well for UTI's and possibly breaking down kidney stones in some cases, but the antioxidants in cranberry juice also detoxify the liver. Hence why cranberry juice/fresh orange juice are often used as part of a detox.

I personally dont like running 'support supplements' such as milk thistle whilst running an oral cycle as this could put additional strain on the liver. Every one is different though, these are just things ive found to work well for myself
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...I personally dont like running 'support supplements' such as milk thistle whilst running an oral cycle as this could put additional strain on the liver. Every one is different though, these are just things ive found to work well for myself
Silymarin is one of the few liver protectants with a wealth of evidence showing it to reverse the effects of cirrhosis, I'd never cycle without it to be honest.
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Silymarin is one of the few liver protectants with a wealth of evidence showing it to reverse the effects of cirrhosis, I'd never cycle without it to be honest.
If I take milk thistle/silymarin its generally after cycle tbh, but as I said, each is to their own really, theres no written rule as such
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If I take milk thistle/silymarin its generally after cycle tbh, but as I said, each is to their own really, theres no written rule as such
That's a protocol I've seen for quite a few guys, nothing on-cycle then pile on the liver support in the post cycle/recovery period.
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i had pain in my liver when taking dianabol liv 52 sorted it out. hope it helps
No you didn't.
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Silymarin is one of the few liver protectants with a wealth of evidence showing it to reverse the effects of cirrhosis, I'd never cycle without it to be honest.
No it hasn't.
And before you tell me i'm wrong i spent 5wks in a specialist liver unit at the local hospital while my late wife was being treated with cirrhosis and spent many hours talking to specialist liver consultants about silymarin and especially weather it had any benefits for ppl taking 17aa steroids, it doesn't, for either.
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That's a protocol I've seen for quite a few guys, nothing on-cycle then pile on the liver support in the post cycle/recovery period.
Dont get me wrong, i'll drink cranberry juice and copious amounts of water when on cycle, but in all hoenstly, alcohol is more toxic than most orals... its only abuse/extensive use of particular orals which would cause liver failure etc. Liver protection is individual tbh, I dont see a great need for it for short oral cycles, i'll take milk thistle afterwards but by running it on cycle it can potentially put your liver under more stress.

As I said, everyones individual
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