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Old 30-11-2009, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Nolva and Clomid, How toxic?

I have read on a couple of threads that Nolva and Clomid can be pretty hard on the liver. Is this true and does anyone know how much?

If so, would doing something like milk thistle or a good product like cycle assist combat these affects.

I would obviously run some kind of cycle support/assist anyway as PCT, just a little concerned how toxic these things may be.
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Old 30-11-2009, 09:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Nolva and Clomid, How toxic?

Never had any problems with either & never used milk thistle, my liver is sound i just make sure i drink a lot of water & cranberry juice.
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Old 30-11-2009, 10:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Nolva and Clomid, How toxic?

Nolvadex / Tamoxifen is not very hard on the liver - the thing to remember is that it's given to women with breast cancer for periods of up to 5yrs at dosages of up to 80mg's per day.

Far more than bodybuilders tend to take.

You can even drink on it, according to the NHS:

http://www.whnt.nhs.uk/document_uplo...en%20%20rv.pdf

Clomid has many more side effects, but Nolvadex is pretty safe.
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Old 30-11-2009, 10:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Nolva and Clomid, How toxic?

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Nolvadex / Tamoxifen is not very hard on the liver - the thing to remember is that it's given to women with breast cancer for periods of up to 5yrs at dosages of up to 80mg's per day.

Far more than bodybuilders tend to take.

You can even drink on it, according to the NHS:

http://www.whnt.nhs.uk/document_uplo...en%20%20rv.pdf

Clomid has many more side effects, but Nolvadex is pretty safe.
Thanks mate, interesting and helpfull
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Re: Nolva and Clomid, How toxic?

As above, run both nolva and clomid before with no sides nor effects to the liver.

As dan mentioned, cranberry juice is very good for the liver
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that NHS thing was good thanks mate.
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Old 30-11-2009, 11:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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As above, run both nolva and clomid before with no sides nor effects to the liver.

As dan mentioned, cranberry juice is very good for the liver
Thanks for the tip. I always thought cranberry juice was good for the kidneys only?
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Re: Nolva and Clomid, How toxic?

You will only get bias answers on this question within this part of the forum mate, if you want unbias answers from experienced AAS users ask in the Steroids & Testosterone part of the forum.............I myself have never had any issue's with either of them though!
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that NHS thing was good thanks mate.
No worries, I found it fascinating myself.
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