Fresh08

Hi guys, to add another question on PCTs and gyno. I started my PCT last week after a 3 week superdrol cycle (20 mg ed). During the last week of my cycle, a bit of gyno flared up, which I successfully treated with nolva.

But now I am one week in my PCT and my gyno flares up again (puffy nipples, small lump)! I am aware of gyno during cycle or delayed gyno after a PCT, but during? Is not the point of my nolva PCT to stop this from happening?

My PCT is:
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) PCT Day 1 :
60mg Tamoxifen

Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) PCT Days 2 to 11 :
40mg Tamoxifen (taken all at once when convenient)

Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) PCT Days 12 -21:
20mg Tamoxifen

I also take Blue Up, a good test booster based on trib to get everything started again. Could the test booster be the case of my gyno because of the aromatising effect?

What should I do? Wait and see if it stays after completion of my cycle? Start taking a AI to counteract the possible test conversion? I'm still at 40mg nolva a day, so I don't think I should increase that for now.

Any tips?

PHHead

Forget the AI mate get some Clomid asap, also your Nolva doses are way to high as you should be running something like the below:

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20

predatorN

Clomid will not really have an additional effect compared to taking Tamoxifen. Instead I would look at combining the Tamoxifen with something to treat progesterone induced gyno. If it was me I would look to stack with Bromocriptine.

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Fresh08

On another forum two guys have had the same problems with SD and they recommended Vitamin B-6 (pyridoxine) and chasteberry. I've ordered those and I will give those a try for 5 days or so.

Do you think I should include an AI? I normally don't see that as part in PCTs for SD. any experience?

PHHead

Your Gyno can not be progesterone related mate as you have sucessfully treated it already with Nolva, if it was progesterone relation the Nolva would have made it worse and it didn't!

If I was you I would just do a full 4 wk Nolva & Clomid PCT and hope for the best.

Its not a good idea to run and AI in PCT as it will hinder your recovery..........do your PCT and if it still there then try Letro, if that doesnt shift it then try the progestorone related meds just to be sure but I really don't see how it could be due to progestorone in your case mate.

Fresh08

I have now used the B6 and Chasteberry for 3 days and the gyno is clearing up! No more swelling, and the lump is reducing. Not sure it was these extra vits, or just the extra nolva, but it's gone so i'm happy....

PHHead

What doses of B6 and Chasteberry are you using mate out of interested?

sedod86

so is clomid always neccesary for pct? im doing a ten week course of test E AT 250mg a week, got nolva already, been told to get hcg too, willl i need clomid aswell?