andysutils

nope, id by my next list of food with it

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Lost Soul

Why not just debate the point instead of getting all wound up?

Question still stands about the FBRs

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mikex101

Cheers for the input gents. looks like a waste to me at the moment.

Give me a year or two and a decent source and i might just go the whole hog.

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Tazmaniandevil

Iv not read all of this thread but depending on what my gaols were I would def spend £30 on a bottle of ds.


Todate I have tried Phera Plex, Epi, Methoxy Tren, M-Dien, T-Roid, Cyclo 1 Test, M5-AA and rate them all.

Methoxy Tren stacked with Epi was awesome for body recomp, strength was slow but steady over the 6 weeks I was using it for so the end results were impressive.

PP is a nice compound where strength gains come very quickly as did size. I suffered a little from water retention despite drinking plenty and when I bumped my dose to 45mg ed I got shin pains whilst sparing during my kick-boxing training so had to drop back to 30.

M-Dien was awesome for dropping of body fat and pushing strength up. I think I dropped like 3%bf in 3 weeks on this stuff and felt that strength could have kept coming well into week 4.

T-Roid gave very fast strength gains but did make me feel slightly hot and my temper was much shorter whilst using it. This was great for my kick-boxing and weight training session but no so great for day to day life as I was constantly reminding myself not to loose my temper.

Cyclo 1 Test I feel helped me grow and recover much better but did little for strength.

M5-AA again another great aggression increaser helping with focus but not to the extent of Troid. I stacked this product with PP to help with water retention and loss of libido which I feel it helped with both but not as good as the others for strength.

At present after using the above (I started around February) I have increased my body weight to 17 stone at a bf% of around 20% from a starting weight of 16 stone at 25%bf.

Next I plan on running a proper cutting cycle consisting of:

EPI
Methal Rage
T3
Stacker 4
M5-AA
Methoxy Tren

Fingers crossed I can drop down to 15% bf by the end of it.

DaBull

Only tried one over the counter prohormone and that was SD which i only did for 2 weeks then was very ill, don't think it was the SD but had to stop it could'nt train or keep anything down including PCT.

While on the stuff my strength increased alot one example been benching 30k DB for 6 reps normally which went upto 44k after 2 weeks.Will defo be trying again.I would advise 3 weeks on then 3 weeks of proper PCT.I have read over and over again that after 3 weeks your gains drop and you may get flu like symptons.Have also heard of people doing Epi cycle straight after 3 weeks of SD then PCT.Some people even prefer SD to Dbol.