R1dd1ck

Hey peeps. Im needing abit of advice. My diet is currently normal supps like proteins, carbs, vits and minerals but i wanting to try out this new stuff.

Can anyone advise on how to use it or what i need to take with it? if anything?

and also what gains can be achieved from it?

Merouria

Hey mate i was gonna reply to your PM but i haven't got the required 50 posts! As for this stuff it's well worth a try, good for strength and size gains keep a good high clean protein intake and lift well. I take 6 tabs on a workout day and 4 tabs none workout. My supply runs out in just over 2 weeks been on for 2 weeks now and i like the results so far. Lookin bigger lifting much more, as for sides the occasional feeling that my heart is going to jump out my chest at night sometimes but that may be a cause of stacking with Hydroxy-Mesterone. I bought 2 tubs as 1 is not enough. I will tell ya how things have gone after the full 4 weeks are up if you like mate.

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Current Stats:
Bench Press Dumbells - 50kg 10 reps
Shoulder Press Dumbells - 40 kg 6 reps
Deadlift - 175kg 1 rep
Squat - 200kg 1 rep

NeilpWest

i havnt heard of this stuff before is it just like that m1t test stuff?

R1dd1ck

Thanks bro, im going to start out on the usual 2 tabs a day as never had a pro hormone in my system but will gain advice about doubling up.

what does pct mean?

NeilpWest

pct = post cycle therapy should consist of nolva and clomid. Gets your own test back up and running

Merouria

On the bottle the directions are take 2 tabs twice daily, i realised doubling up would cost too much over a 4 week period so i have 6 tabs workout days and the usual 4 on rest days. However it says on the tub do not exceed 6 tabs in any 24 hour period so there shouldn't be a problem anyway. I have read a lot of reviews on the net and shut down is nowhere near the likes of M1T.

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Current Stats:
Bench Press Dumbells - 50kg 10 reps
Shoulder Press Dumbells - 40 kg 6 reps
Deadlift - 175kg 1 rep
Squat - 200kg 1 rep

R1dd1ck

is m1t decent?

NeilpWest

i would answer that but i just seem to be ignoring what ive said so i cant be ****d

R1dd1ck

huh? Ifthe i was meant to be a u then i am listening dude, thankyou for that. i would have come back with abit more info.

I am seriously going to be needing some advice about takin these things then.....i presume its a bit more complex than i think then!

NeilpWest

pro hormones are still steroids. m1t contains the 17aa test that is found in dbol etc so you will get shut down. whether you run this t120 or m1t you will be better doing them 2weeks on then 2 weeks off then 2 weeks on again then do a pct of clomid and nolva for 4weeks to start your on test production back up. just because you can buy them legally doesnt make them safer mate infact m1t is harsher than dbol but they are ment to give good gains.

Merouria

As neil said avoid M1T at all costs, very very harsh for sides and a lot of water weight. I would only advise T120 as i am having good results so far.

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Current Stats:
Bench Press Dumbells - 50kg 10 reps
Shoulder Press Dumbells - 40 kg 6 reps
Deadlift - 175kg 1 rep
Squat - 200kg 1 rep

R1dd1ck

How long are you using the IDS and t120+? how long is your cycle? 4 weeks, 6 or 8? before u go onto ur pct?

Merouria

4 weeks on, then 4 weeks off mate.

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Current Stats:
Bench Press Dumbells - 50kg 10 reps
Shoulder Press Dumbells - 40 kg 6 reps
Deadlift - 175kg 1 rep
Squat - 200kg 1 rep

R1dd1ck

Shouldnt you have a break after your pct?

So is 8 week cycle too long? as im going to use the ids aswell like yourself if your gettin good gains on it?

Have a look on my post for cycle information....see what u think. i havent added ids onto there but i will do.

R1dd1ck

Can i just ask, should i use this once ive hit my plateau and can't do anymore or not?