Long R3 IGF-1 vs Human Growth Hormone

[standardflexer]

Hi guys on an average dose what do you think will give better results Long R3 IGF-1 or Human Growth Hormone.

[Pscarb]

they are 2 different things so what results are you wanting to compare?
fat loss?
muscle gain?
condition of skin?

[standardflexer]

okay, muscle gain is what i would most want to be obtaining out of those 3.

[Pscarb]

well i would not choose either for that goal but seeing as you asked i would say GH

[Ramrod]

Out of curiosity Pscarb would you say there's anything that IGF is better for?

[standardflexer]

Okay thanks for the reply they are going to both give muscle gain though aren't they?

[geezuz]

Nothing like a good cycle of test, tren and d-bol, of course you can always combine. I trained 12 years, weigh 100kg (16st) and never felt the need. It's expensive also compared to what you are likely to achieve. Paul?

[Pscarb]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Out of curiosity Pscarb would you say there's anything that IGF is better for?

you cannot simplify it like that....GH converts to IGF-1 in the liver and this (along with MGF) is responsible for growth of new muscle cells (there is a more science explanation on google ) so being better is not the correct way of thinking as like everything it is down to both dose and genetics.....i have used both with good results i prefer GH over IGF as it is a more complete peptide......

Originally Posted by standardflexer

Okay thanks for the reply they are going to both give muscle gain though aren't they?

it would seem that guys are always looking for a simple yes or no.....i wish it was that simple....
in a way yes they will both give muscle gain but 50mg of Dbol will give more muscle size.......so to simplify YES

Originally Posted by geezuz

Nothing like a good cycle of test, tren and d-bol, of course you can always combine. I trained 12 years, weigh 100kg (16st) and never felt the need. It's expensive also compared to what you are likely to achieve. Paul?

feeling the need is not here nor there really but i get your point.....i have no issues with guys wanting to use either peptide but the problem is that many use it for the wrong reason as they assume every big guy on the planet has got that way using either of them....(not directed at one by the way) using GH for a lengthy period of time will give good results in my opinion when all else is covered can effectively change a physique given time.

[geezuz]

feeling the need is not here nor there really but i get your point.....i have no issues with guys wanting to use either peptide but the problem is that many use it for the wrong reason as they assume every big guy on the planet has got that way using either of them....(not directed at one by the way) using GH for a lengthy period of time will give good results in my opinion when all else is covered can effectively change a physique given time.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, look at Usain Bolt, polishing off the worl record like a walk in the park and nobody can prove shxxt but i know what I think. For me it is the lack of medical trials that puts me off as well as the wealth of shady chinks pushing god knows what blue and green tops all over the place. This stuff need to be treated wit respect something I am sure you and other serious BBers do. Not something that you add because it gives a "good pump" so to speak.