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06-05-2008, 08:01 PM
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| too full for hypo what do you do if you're going a bit hypo but you feel full |
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06-05-2008, 08:03 PM
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| Re: too full for hypo Drink a glucose drink, or if that is impossible rub the glucose or what ever sugar thing you have into your gums.
This might be due to you having absorption issues, possibly you ate way to many fiber/complex carbs + protiens and not enough simple sugars????
What and what amount did you take?
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06-05-2008, 08:14 PM
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| Re: too full for hypo Quote:
Originally Posted by wogihao Drink a glucose drink, or if that is impossible rub the glucose or what ever sugar thing you have into your gums.
This might be due to you having absorption issues, possibly you ate way to many fiber/complex carbs + protiens and not enough simple sugars????
What and what amount did you take? | Took 50g glucose drink, 20g hydrolysed whey, 25g whey isolate and a banana. Never happened before. Probably just one of those, anomalous, things. Any thoughts. |
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10-05-2008, 12:36 PM
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| Re: too full for hypo Makre sure u take enough carbs for the IU of slin you took. 50g plus banana (20ish g) seems low to me.
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10-05-2008, 12:45 PM
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| Re: too full for hypo Thats a childs drink,
You can run 6g/1iu of slin but thats very touch and go i found. I tend to err on the side of caution and go for 10g/1iu. Theres always going to be some random wastage with digestion so build in a little head room (thus the 10g as oposed to 6g).
You never did list what you actualy took to require the glucose drink in the first place, what drugs were you running bud? rember the drink you would need for 2iu is diffrent to the guy shooting 20iu...
example,
joe bicep boy shoots 4iu of slin, he figures he needs...
10g x 4 = 40g of glucose.. + then any other **** you want to add.
But but at this low dose, weird things seem to affect the uptake of the glucose into the body its not a clear cut thing, stuff you ate before - stress and other factors can reduce the efectivness of the drink. so even though you think your cool you might still get sympotoms even at this low dose of slin.
however his friend bob mc powerlifter is useing 20iu of slin, he would need somthing more substantial to avoid a trip to the ER.
10g x 20 = 200g of glucose (probably more at that level actualy as its gets difficult to absorb that much glucose in one shot..)
now probably your fall somewhere inbetween that but you see what i meen.
One thing you dont want to do is be relying on complex energy sources in the recovery drink - it takes to long to break down into a form that the body can use so protien is a tricky source of energy to plug for. The only guy i heard of that used protien to recover from slin shots is dead, but to be fare he was huge.
You should use a complex carb source for the meal after your drink, that way you have a steady release of carbs for a few hours after your meal as well as the imediate hit from the glucose drink.
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10-05-2008, 01:13 PM
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| Re: too full for hypo Quote:
Originally Posted by wogihao Thats a childs drink,
You can run 6g/1iu of slin but thats very touch and go i found. I tend to err on the side of caution and go for 10g/1iu. Theres always going to be some random wastage with digestion so build in a little head room (thus the 10g as oposed to 6g).
You never did list what you actualy took to require the glucose drink in the first place, what drugs were you running bud? rember the drink you would need for 2iu is diffrent to the guy shooting 20iu...
example,
joe bicep boy shoots 4iu of slin, he figures he needs...
10g x 4 = 40g of glucose.. + then any other **** you want to add.
But but at this low dose, weird things seem to affect the uptake of the glucose into the body its not a clear cut thing, stuff you ate before - stress and other factors can reduce the efectivness of the drink. so even though you think your cool you might still get sympotoms even at this low dose of slin.
however his friend bob mc powerlifter is useing 20iu of slin, he would need somthing more substantial to avoid a trip to the ER.
10g x 20 = 200g of glucose (probably more at that level actualy as its gets difficult to absorb that much glucose in one shot..)
now probably your fall somewhere inbetween that but you see what i meen.
One thing you dont want to do is be relying on complex energy sources in the recovery drink - it takes to long to break down into a form that the body can use so protien is a tricky source of energy to plug for. The only guy i heard of that used protien to recover from slin shots is dead, but to be fare he was huge.
You should use a complex carb source for the meal after your drink, that way you have a steady release of carbs for a few hours after your meal as well as the imediate hit from the glucose drink. |
Okay, I use 15 or so ius insulin with 10 ius growth and have 2 scoops pro recover, 1 scoop whey isolate and a banana, about 45 mins later i have 175g wholewheat pasta with 350g turkey breast. I'm kind of trying to skate close to mild hypo to avoid any surplus carbs being stored as fat. Most of the time i'm okay with these measures but occasionally things trip over into more moderate hypo, at which point i'll ingest a few more carbs to compensate |
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10-05-2008, 01:23 PM
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| | Pleasure cordinator
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| Re: too full for hypo I have used 150g-200g of glucose in the past with a 15iu injection of slin, i didnt get fat but then that was due to my use of anabolics. that said genetic reponce could be a factor.
Hgh reduces the need to worry about excess fat deposits even further so you have almost nothing to worry about, what would concern me however is constanly surfing a wave of feeling hypo. that cant be confortable experence.
I think with the addition of other compounds the abity of slin to add excess fat is overstaited - I can only think it was down to the use of longer acting insulin preperations or to its use by itself without other suporting synergenic substances.
Consider that guys like Milos S, would have you takeing around 200g of glucose in your drink makes you think that your vastly underestimateing your need for glucose. One factor thats not been considered is perhaps you are insensitive to insulin? its amazing you have not had issues up till now running that much.
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