Help A Mate Please...

[estfna]

Mate (no, really) in the gym reads here but isn't registered, wants advice on GH and Insulin. He currently shoots 10IU GH Mon, Wed, Fri. He's worried about the bad potential of Insulin aswell so I told him about IGF.

Any advice how he should run GH and Insulin/IGF?

Thanks.

[Pscarb]

sorry mate but to give any info on Insulin we would need to know more about this guy, why does'nt he join himself??

[estfna]

Don't know tbh, just asked me to ask. Don't know if he has a home internet connection. He's about same height as me, 5'10-ish, 15stone-ish. Looks about 15%bf, been lifting for a few years. 21, nearly 22. Done a few cycles before, currently on Test max 400, N-max and Winstrol. I don't know his doses/cycle time etc.

[gym rat]

if hes taking a ml each of testmax and nmax at one go thats 800mg of gear without even counting the winstrol, find out what dose hes taking mate cos if hes taking three ml of each a week his recepters will be fooked

[estfna]

without sounding stupid but why would that make a difference and how would it affect receptors? sorry, just don't have much clue about this sort of stuff.

i think though, he may be injecting the testmax and nmax diff days spread through the week, maybe even half a ml at a time.

[tkd]

The main worry about insulin is going into hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) which could kill you.

If you are smart with it's use and don't abuse, it's a very useful drug.

Make sure he gets his hands on a fast acting insulin, e.g. novorapid or humalog

If it's not this type of insulin, DON'T USE IT.

The general theory is 10g of high glycaemic carbs per 1iu of insulin.

Starting off with 4iu post-workout, is a good dose to start with, and gradually work up to 10iu+

With the high glycaemic carbs you want to take your whey protein and creatine, so all the nutrients are shuttled into the muscle cells.

After this shake a solid meal is preferable, low in fat, high in protein and carbs. (insulin is a storage hormone, you don't want to store fat)

If he is using 10iu GH, taking the GH and insulin post-workout should reap better gains than using either alone.

Due to the fact that in order for GH to be converted to IGF-1 in the liver, insulin must be present.

So the two peptides are working synergestically.

[estfna]

good explanation, i'll pass it on, thanks