need some advise on gh please

[dean c]

ok ive got a few questions id appreciate some advise-1.my source has kefei hgh ,will this only come as powder and if so where can i get bac water from?
2.how many ius come in each vial and how long can i store a vial once ive added the water?
3.im aware that 2ius per day is a low dose but would this be best to avoid cts rather than jumping straight in @ 4ius ed?
4.this is my first time with gh and after reading as much as i can on it my plan was to do 5days on /2off @2ius intra m for a couple of months and then increasing to 4ius thereafter for 6months minimum ,does this sound ok ?
it will be run alongside aas cycles always with a base of test

[Pscarb]

1 - you will need to do a search as the main supplier in the states has shut down
2 - i think the keifei are 8iu's per vial
3 - CTS happens at different doses and changes from person to person i do not suffer from it anything less than 8iu's
4 - this sounds fine what are your goals?

[hackskii]

It does sound fine to me too.
Blue tops gave me CTS super bad at 4iu a day.
Dropped it down to 2 and it was still there.
Dropped it down to 1iu and it was ok.

[dean c]

really appreciate the advise mate,how long can you keep once mixed?
my goals in general are to compete in a few years so muscle gain essentially altough ive read a lot of your posts and im not expecting miracles ,tbh the mood enhancement and improved sleep are big factors for me also.my way of thinking is that i want to compete in the future and am hoping starting gh will be a good investment as im prepared to use long term and wait for the results!am i correct in thinking like this?

[dean c]

hackski ,what results do you see from such a low dose?

[Pscarb]

as long as you are not expecting miracles which it sounds like you are not then it is a good thing to use if you can use it long term...

Hackskii can use such a low dose because he is 110yrs old or something like that.....:love: Scott

[hackskii]

I do it for life extention myself and for some blocking of cortisol for fat burning.
But if I could I would love to stay on for many years.
Many studies on this one and I can cite some of them off the top of my head.
After 6 months time they noticed 16% bodyfat loss, increased muscle mass, some of the older folks rolled back the years.
Due to the decline in hormones HGH supplementation helps things like cholesterol profile, softer skin, better eyesight, better hearing, better cognitive function, helps leydig cells as to potentially keep test levels higher.

Couple of the sides include stuff like hypothyroidism, and insulin resistance but again that is dose related along with CTS, all dose related.

You wont notice much but I can tell you that 6 months on HGH I lost 4" on my waist with zero dieting.
I think I might have lost about 3 lbs but 4" is a very good number and should leave you scratching your head as for me every 5 lbs of weight loss equates to around 1" on the stomach.
So, I have no doubt that HGH and long term use has some fat burning potentials.

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by Pscarb

Hackskii can use such a low dose because he is 110yrs old or something like that.....:love: Scott

You just made me crack up man.
Funny thing, there are some doctors that feel old age has more to do with hormonal decline than any other factors.
I am leaning tward that way.

I not only take HGH, but I also take DHEA, and melatonin, I see benefits with those big time.

[dean c]

ok great ,can i also ask what the effects are like when cycled with igf-1 lr3?im aware that slin is best but i dont think im quite ready for that step yet

[Pscarb]

that is a question that cannot be answered as diet and training plays a huge role in the results...

Scott i also use DHEA and Melatonin when not on AAS

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by Pscarb

that is a question that cannot be answered as diet and training plays a huge role in the results...

Scott i also use DHEA and Melatonin when not on AAS

Sorry for the hyjack here.
What is the dose you use on the DHEA Paul?
One problem with DHEA is it can elivate estrogen in men.
In women it elivates testosterone levels.
Damn, I wish that was the other way around

[dean c]

no probs !ive just been informed that gh is hard to get from china at the mo so looks like im gona have to wait for mine.sorry if im braking any rules here but how do people usually obtain insulin?

[Pscarb]

Scott i use 200mg ed when off cycle and away from PCT

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by Pscarb

Scott i use 200mg ed when off cycle and away from PCT

Dude, that is actually too much.
If you do it at the tail end of the cycle for cortisol issues then fine, but at that does you will have some aromitization issues and would probably need an AI.
When I was taking alot of DHEA (half as much as you), I was off the chart by many times above the base levels.
One of the doctors said it can actually cause testicular atrophy.

Funny thing about DHEA is some people assimilate it better than others, some take it and has little effects on over all blood levels, but for others it is fine.

Another thing about DHEA is once added it does not lower endo levels, like almost all hormones do, not sure why but it doesnt.
I use 25mg ED for life extention.
There are many studies that suggest supplementing DHEA is nothing, other studies suggest healthfull benefits.
Me, hell I do it for curbing cortisol and life extention.

But maybe you dont assimilate it very well so you might be alright.

My girlfriend has an autoimmune disorter (lupis with a rhumitoid cofactor), they perscribed pharmacuitical grade DHEA to her @ 200mg a day.
This is the real deal stuff too, expensive.

Again in men it will elivate estrogen, in women testosterone.

I was recommended by my old TRT/HRT doctor to only take 25mg max a day.

[dean c]

another question,this may sound dumb but just checking,if my gh comes in 8iu vials and im using 4iu each time all i need to do is add say 20ius of water then 10ius on the slin dart will =4ius of gh?