IGF LR3 Basics - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Timmy Smooth · 14-07-2006, 01:57 PM

How's it going, fellas.

Interested in trying IGF. Howevers, despite sifting through some of the threads on the MR forum here, still unsure about a few things.....

What would a typical IGF cycle look like, in terms of how regular IGF is administered, what kind of doses, length of cycle. etc. Now in the recent article Hacksii posted, there's a segment that says ''...Any form of IGF is ONLY supplied in a lyphosized form, which means a dry powder state. NEVER PUCHASE PRE-DILUTED LIQUID IGF!!!!'', but then there's people on here that have used pre-dilluted, it seems.

Taking Muscle Research's products for our example (well, they are offering 40% off right now!), how much would I need for a regular cycle? Does this need to be stored specially?

Nice one, all help appreciated.

C

the_gre8t_1ne · 14-07-2006, 02:25 PM

A copy and paste job from a post of Hackski

The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off. The most controversy surrounding Long R3 IGF-1 is the effective dosage. The most used dosages range between 20mcg/day to 120+mcg/day. IGF is only available by the milligram, one mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 20mcg/day, 2mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 40mcg/day, 3mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 60mcg/day, 4mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 80mcg/day and so on. The dosage issue mainly revolves around how much money you have to spend, plenty of people use the minimum dosage of 20mcg/day and are happy with the results, and in fact several top bodybuilders use the 20mcg/day dosage and are pleased with the results. IGF is most effective when administered subcutaneously and injected once or twice daily at your current dosage. The best time for injections is either in the morning and/or immediately after weight training.

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So i would just start @20mcg ED then up it as needed when the pumps/gains are not as visible as you will prob need to if u run it for 50 days

for more info
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/muscle-re...?highlight=igf

DB · 14-07-2006, 02:28 PM

i would start at 20mg then up it by about 10 each time the pumps subside abit

chemist · 14-07-2006, 02:32 PM

i personally prefer the lyophilized form but people have used the pre-diluted form with success.it's diluted with acetic acid which does not degrade the igf.
the common dosage is between 50-100mcg everyday. some choose to inject once a day some prefer twice a day spread apart.i prefer to just inject PWO or in the morning on non workout days.
some use it 25 days on 25 days of others have used it for 50 days then took time of

Ironman · 14-07-2006, 02:34 PM

Anyone got a link to that site where you can order it from? interested in the cost as a local source is knocking it out at what seems to be an inhumane price lol

tkd · 14-07-2006, 02:37 PM

I personally found that 60mcg ED was better for me.

Some users go as high as 120mcg ED, but I stuck to 60mcg ED as I was getting the results I wanted.

If reconstituted in acetic acid, a cool dry place for storage under 18 degrees celcius should be fine.

I personally have used both lyophilized and pre-reconstituted LR3 IGF-1.
I did not notice any difference.

I used it for 50 days. That is a typical cycle.

Your supposed to site inject the muscle you were working out PWO with a slin pin for localised growth.

But I don't beleive that IGF-1 LR3 can give localised growth as the half life is too long.

chemist · 14-07-2006, 02:37 PM

just click on the muscle research banner ad

**Pscarb** · 14-07-2006, 04:37 PM

IGF-1 recepters start to close down around the 50 day mark so any length od cycle up to this duration is good i go with 4 weeks on 4 weeks off and works fine with me.

This last cycle i went to 100mcg ed 40 at breakfast 60PWO but i would always advise a new IGF user to start on 40mcg.

I have used both the pre-mixed and un-mixed versions and again i cannot tell the diffrence the pre-mixed from MR is very good quality.

Tkd the thing with localised growth which IGF does do is down to the fact that after training all of your IGF receptors are wide open when you jab the IGF into the bicpe say after training them it will go to the IGF receptors in the biceps first but not soley hence the localised growth any one who has seen the size of both my shoulders and arms lately can attest to this i am sure TinyTom will agree...

Ironman · 14-07-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

IGF-1 recepters start to close down around the 50 day mark so any length od cycle up to this duration is good i go with 4 weeks on 4 weeks off and works fine with me.

This last cycle i went to 100mcg ed 40 at breakfast 60PWO but i would always advise a new IGF user to start on 40mcg.

I have used both the pre-mixed and un-mixed versions and again i cannot tell the diffrence the pre-mixed from MR is very good quality.

Tkd the thing with localised growth which IGF does do is down to the fact that after training all of your IGF receptors are wide open when you jab the IGF into the bicpe say after training them it will go to the IGF receptors in the biceps first but not soley hence the localised growth any one who has seen the size of both my shoulders and arms lately can attest to this i am sure TinyTom will agree...

Bigger Guns! Im getting some and thats all there is to it!!!

Timmy Smooth · 17-07-2006, 05:49 PM

So using Muscle Research's products as an example, how many vials would I need for a cycle if each bottle is 1mg/ml?

**hackskii** · 17-07-2006, 06:21 PM

1000mcg per 1mg of 1ml

I am taking 50mcg a day and I am on my second bottle.

This is my second cycle of IGF-1 (4 bottles total) and 90% I shot in my right bicep do to a bicep tear, I really dont notice any localised effects, some say that but it is active in the body for like 30 hours or more so I just dont see this being active in one spot for 30 hours.

So, one bottle @ 50mcg would be 20 days, 25 days @ 40mcg
I dont see doing any less than 40 TBH.

kahkisparky · 17-07-2006, 09:29 PM

anyone got opinions on EOD, E3D and E4D dosing?? Just been reading bout it at AM. Very interesting!!

Timmy Smooth · 19-07-2006, 01:33 PM

OK, nice one, so I could get two bottles and run either 40mcgs for 50 days, or 50mcgs for 40.

I've started a T3/Clen/Carb Cycle cut this week. I'm thinking of running the IGF at the end of this, in 4-6 weeks time or so. My idea being that the presence of the IGF will help to recover my strength quicker from the diet, and enhance the cut. Am I thinking on the right lines? How effective have other people found IGF?

Also, how are you supposed to measure out 40/50mcgs? I guess that's not done in your regular 2ml syringe from the exchange?

Thanks for your patience,

C

**hackskii** · 19-07-2006, 03:30 PM

Slin needle, it is the second line from the bottom. That would be the smaller marks.
Second line is 40mcg, I do 50 and it is between the second and third lines (in between).

I noticed it was harder to lose weight while on IGF-1 when dieting but then again I do think it helps keep muscle when dieting.
I dont think there is any real way of taking it to be the most correct.

But if you are taking T3 then I would add something in there to avoid catabolism, dieting using T3 can amount to some muscle loss.
Maybe you should run the IGF and T3 together.
If it is low dose like 25mcg then this might be ok for T3 but it has catabolic effects, meaning some muscle will be lost.

Timmy Smooth · 19-07-2006, 04:32 PM

One step ahead of you - Sust and Deca, and I'll add 50mg Anadrol when I reach the highest T3 dose.

14-07-2006, 01:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Timmy Smooth Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camden, London, via Cardiff. Posts: 2,794	IGF LR3 Basics How's it going, fellas. Interested in trying IGF. Howevers, despite sifting through some of the threads on the MR forum here, still unsure about a few things..... What would a typical IGF cycle look like, in terms of how regular IGF is administered, what kind of doses, length of cycle. etc. Now in the recent article Hacksii posted, there's a segment that says ''...Any form of IGF is ONLY supplied in a lyphosized form, which means a dry powder state. NEVER PUCHASE PRE-DILUTED LIQUID IGF!!!!'', but then there's people on here that have used pre-dilluted, it seems. Taking Muscle Research's products for our example (well, they are offering 40% off right now!), how much would I need for a regular cycle? Does this need to be stored specially? Nice one, all help appreciated. C

14-07-2006, 02:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
the_gre8t_1ne Your Friendly neighbourhood pusha! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Ghetto (West, London) Posts: 4,027	A copy and paste job from a post of Hackski The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off. The most controversy surrounding Long R3 IGF-1 is the effective dosage. The most used dosages range between 20mcg/day to 120+mcg/day. IGF is only available by the milligram, one mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 20mcg/day, 2mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 40mcg/day, 3mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 60mcg/day, 4mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 80mcg/day and so on. The dosage issue mainly revolves around how much money you have to spend, plenty of people use the minimum dosage of 20mcg/day and are happy with the results, and in fact several top bodybuilders use the 20mcg/day dosage and are pleased with the results. IGF is most effective when administered subcutaneously and injected once or twice daily at your current dosage. The best time for injections is either in the morning and/or immediately after weight training. I[/i] So i would just start @20mcg ED then up it as needed when the pumps/gains are not as visible as you will prob need to if u run it for 50 days for more info http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/muscle-re...?highlight=igf __________________ Know your role and shut your mouth! or I'll layeth the SMACK DOWN on your Candy ASS!! If you smelalalalalalooouuuu To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. the gre8t 1ne.......is cooking!? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. also find me at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,182	IGF-1 recepters start to close down around the 50 day mark so any length od cycle up to this duration is good i go with 4 weeks on 4 weeks off and works fine with me. This last cycle i went to 100mcg ed 40 at breakfast 60PWO but i would always advise a new IGF user to start on 40mcg. I have used both the pre-mixed and un-mixed versions and again i cannot tell the diffrence the pre-mixed from MR is very good quality. Tkd the thing with localised growth which IGF does do is down to the fact that after training all of your IGF receptors are wide open when you jab the IGF into the bicpe say after training them it will go to the IGF receptors in the biceps first but not soley hence the localised growth any one who has seen the size of both my shoulders and arms lately can attest to this i am sure TinyTom will agree... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

17-07-2006, 06:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,164	1000mcg per 1mg of 1ml I am taking 50mcg a day and I am on my second bottle. This is my second cycle of IGF-1 (4 bottles total) and 90% I shot in my right bicep do to a bicep tear, I really dont notice any localised effects, some say that but it is active in the body for like 30 hours or more so I just dont see this being active in one spot for 30 hours. So, one bottle @ 50mcg would be 20 days, 25 days @ 40mcg I dont see doing any less than 40 TBH. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-07-2006, 02:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
chemist Gym Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 109	i personally prefer the lyophilized form but people have used the pre-diluted form with success.it's diluted with acetic acid which does not degrade the igf. the common dosage is between 50-100mcg everyday. some choose to inject once a day some prefer twice a day spread apart.i prefer to just inject PWO or in the morning on non workout days. some use it 25 days on 25 days of others have used it for 50 days then took time of

14-07-2006, 02:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ironman Sculpting the masterpiece Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,464	Anyone got a link to that site where you can order it from? interested in the cost as a local source is knocking it out at what seems to be an inhumane price lol

14-07-2006, 02:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
tkd Looking Freaky Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 547	I personally found that 60mcg ED was better for me. Some users go as high as 120mcg ED, but I stuck to 60mcg ED as I was getting the results I wanted. If reconstituted in acetic acid, a cool dry place for storage under 18 degrees celcius should be fine. I personally have used both lyophilized and pre-reconstituted LR3 IGF-1. I did not notice any difference. I used it for 50 days. That is a typical cycle. Your supposed to site inject the muscle you were working out PWO with a slin pin for localised growth. But I don't beleive that IGF-1 LR3 can give localised growth as the half life is too long.

14-07-2006, 02:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
chemist Gym Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 109	just click on the muscle research banner ad

17-07-2006, 05:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Timmy Smooth Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camden, London, via Cardiff. Posts: 2,794	So using Muscle Research's products as an example, how many vials would I need for a cycle if each bottle is 1mg/ml?

17-07-2006, 09:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
kahkisparky Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	anyone got opinions on EOD, E3D and E4D dosing?? Just been reading bout it at AM. Very interesting!!

19-07-2006, 01:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Timmy Smooth Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camden, London, via Cardiff. Posts: 2,794	OK, nice one, so I could get two bottles and run either 40mcgs for 50 days, or 50mcgs for 40. I've started a T3/Clen/Carb Cycle cut this week. I'm thinking of running the IGF at the end of this, in 4-6 weeks time or so. My idea being that the presence of the IGF will help to recover my strength quicker from the diet, and enhance the cut. Am I thinking on the right lines? How effective have other people found IGF? Also, how are you supposed to measure out 40/50mcgs? I guess that's not done in your regular 2ml syringe from the exchange? Thanks for your patience, C

19-07-2006, 03:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,164	Slin needle, it is the second line from the bottom. That would be the smaller marks. Second line is 40mcg, I do 50 and it is between the second and third lines (in between). I noticed it was harder to lose weight while on IGF-1 when dieting but then again I do think it helps keep muscle when dieting. I dont think there is any real way of taking it to be the most correct. But if you are taking T3 then I would add something in there to avoid catabolism, dieting using T3 can amount to some muscle loss. Maybe you should run the IGF and T3 together. If it is low dose like 25mcg then this might be ok for T3 but it has catabolic effects, meaning some muscle will be lost. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-07-2006, 04:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Timmy Smooth Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camden, London, via Cardiff. Posts: 2,794	One step ahead of you - Sust and Deca, and I'll add 50mg Anadrol when I reach the highest T3 dose.

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