TypeR

you look good shib i ve only just seen this mate, same shape as me sept your a bit more cut and dont have the love handles of love lol, and i weight about 10lb more :o

AussieMarc

He looks fantastic.. Whats the diet Cookie?

John

i keep hearing this, " its not a competition ", but " comparisons will be good to see ", " it will be interesting to see what changes can be made on gear , compared to natural ".

How the fcuk can you compare shib to me, its like comparing shib, to majestic power, or killer with jimmy in contest nick, or me and just about any fcuking bodybuilder you want. Im fcuking sick of this already but im not gonna rap it, i may how ever stop posting in the forum, all together, and do the whole thing by msn, so give it a rest or ruin this for more people than yourself.:(

"I would eat dog sh1t if biker told me too". Thanks for quoting me winger, but dude it was a bit more like, " if biker told me dog sh1t would make me grow, id eat it, lol ".;)

ONE SMART COOKIE

Sorry cant say just yet as it is very early days and this is the first eating plan of many he`s going to go through so that I can gauge how he rects to different ones.

One thing I can say "He will not be bulking up ever"imho,thats just a lazy way of doing things and an excuse to eat sh!t and make a pig of onesself,plus in the long run,imho,I thin k bulking up is counter productive to longterm gains,but each too their own.

winger

Lol john. You still have your humor. John I have said it before and I will say it agian. You are the greatest. John if you stop posting, I will start stalking!

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Biker

depends on your definition of bulking, I would count putting mass on as bulking, i.e. eating a surplus of food to grow as much as possible. But you are right many use it as an excuse to live in fast food shops.

Cheater2K

like paul for instance lol

winger

You mean this guy.

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ONE SMART COOKIE

I would say my definition of bulking is not being able to see the muscles/abs clearly defined.

I agree that you need to eat a surplus of food to grow as much as possible "but" I feel that people " excpect" to grow too quickly and in doing so eat far too much and get fat,its like gear cycles why take lots of gear to grow and then lots of stuff during pct when if you kept the cycle plain/simple and small and just shoot for a gain of 2-3 solid punds of each cycle by the end of a 12 month period you would have added a considerable amount of good solid tissue.

I know to most if not all 2-3lbs is pretty pultry(sp)but if done overtime it does add up and you know your going to keep it all at the end,plus have more cash in your back pocket for other things.

Cheater2K

depends what you cool heavy cycles mate, most cycles that alot of us do are simple


and winger, lol, that guy is paul who started ther thread :p

Biker

mate 2-3lbs of real muscle say per season isn't a small amount IMHO, well not for anyone who's more advanced anyhow. lol if you gained that every year well everyone would be massive ;)

ONE SMART COOKIE

Heavy cycles,imo are 750mg a week and upwards.

I used to gain like that biker on most if not all cycles when I first started gearing,just using 100 of the old pronabol or blue dbol tabs pyramided over a month doing 4 weeks on 4-6 weeks off and it was probably the best time of my gearing use,wished i`d never stuck a needle in my **** because looking back I know I could have made the same or even more gains with a hell of a lot less gear than what I took,7.5 stone in 8 yrs aint bad but I could have done better.

winger

This is very true. Go and check out 2 or 3 pounds of meat. Now imagine putting that on your body in all the right spots. That is massive gains.

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Biker

LMFAO @ shib