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Biker · 23-11-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKI

LOL,Hey guys chill it aint a competition(tongue in cheek)lol,

If I had known it would cause some rivalry I wouldnt have posted in the first place:p
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lol that's people for you, they can't see people getting good results there must be winners and losers

lol in this case the guys are just too different to compare IMHO if we were both starting with peeps with similar stats it would have been interesting to be fair.

winger · 23-11-2004, 02:38 PM

I think the problem is diet.

John · 23-11-2004, 02:42 PM

bit what problem would that be?

Biker · 23-11-2004, 03:45 PM

what problem is that winger? I wasn't aware of any problems with my guys.

Cheater2K · 23-11-2004, 04:38 PM

nor me

winger · 23-11-2004, 04:45 PM

Biker, did you tell your guys what to eat from the first day? Diet is key, thats all.

Biker · 23-11-2004, 05:12 PM

no I just told them to go to McD 3 times a day, why is that not how to coach people?

good job you pointed that out to me I hadn't realised diet was important in bodybuilding....

For what it's worth we are adjusting their existing diets rather than trying to change them overnight, much easier to get a person to stick to a diet if you gradually change it to the way it should be. Overnight for many people will just end up with them dropping out as the change is too drastic.

winger · 23-11-2004, 05:59 PM

I agree, but and there always is one, why not just change the carbs that they eat? Low glycimic carbs for starters. You can take in the same amount so the body wont even know the difference. Diet is work, training is fun. Let me quote one of your guys. "I would eat dog sh1t if biker told me too". I like that. Not the dog sh1t the dedication to you.

ONE SMART COOKIE · 23-11-2004, 06:00 PM

Guys chill ok,dont want this locking do we?either that or I wont post anymore progress reports up here and nobody will get to know what I`ve done with shib end off.

Biker I think in some unique way we could compare in that we are both doing something that gives readers the opertunity to see things from both sides of the fence,natural and gear users.

For those using or thinking of using they can use your ideas/people as a bench mark to work from and learn about themselves and how they react to gear,and for those natural they can see what shib ha done and go with what he`s done and for those that aren`t sure what they want to do either way they have both examples to give them a better insight in what needs too be done on both sides of the fence.

John I do have somebody over at the biohazard site that I`m helping that was like you high in the body fat area and so far this year(about 6-7months) he`s lost over 2 stone naturally,so thats another good example for people to compare for their own improvements.

But I am going to say again"THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION"it is a great way for people to realy get to see both sides of the coin,so by all means ask question but no sh!t stirring,ok.

winger · 23-11-2004, 06:07 PM

If I came across as sh1t stirring then I apoligize. I was just expressing myself.

DB · 23-11-2004, 06:20 PM

i knew what u ment bro...sometimes its hard to pick up what people mean in words rather that facial and voice expressions to go with it... maybe we should link up webcams lol

Biker · 23-11-2004, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winger

I agree, but and there always is one, why not just change the carbs that they eat? Low glycimic carbs for starters. You can take in the same amount so the body wont even know the difference. Diet is work, training is fun. Let me quote one of your guys. "I would eat dog sh1t if biker told me too". I like that. Not the dog sh1t the dedication to you.

I wouldn't even consider a diet that comprised of only carbs from the 'low GI group' as their diet would contain little more than fruit for carbs if that was the case and at this stage the guys are doing a little bulking while they still can.

as it stands I don't believe they've been asked to eat anything out of the High group and all the carbs I have suggested to them are from the low and moderate categories.

I'm inclined to think you were stirring a little as I can't believe for one minute you thought you needed to tell me that diet was important because I didn't know that.

**hackskii** · 23-11-2004, 08:38 PM

I never took it as a competition.
I am really interested in how all the guys do and look at the end.
I would like to keep informed out of curiosity more than anything else.
This is going to be very interesting to keep tabs on.
I wish all the guys the best of luck and looks.

winger · 23-11-2004, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker

I'm inclined to think you were stirring a little as I can't believe for one minute you thought you needed to tell me that diet was important because I didn't know that.

I think you know about diet. When I say diet, I meat a eating life style. There are bulking diets and cutting diets. Thats all.

Shib · 23-11-2004, 11:08 PM

Just wanted to say I am not treating this as a competition.

I think it is going to be quite good for people to make comparisons though to see how natural or assisted training helps one to reach there goals.

So lets all get along

23-11-2004, 02:42 PM	#33 (permalink)
John EFBB Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,244	sorry dude bit what problem would that be?

23-11-2004, 05:12 PM	#37 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	no I just told them to go to McD 3 times a day, why is that not how to coach people? good job you pointed that out to me I hadn't realised diet was important in bodybuilding.... For what it's worth we are adjusting their existing diets rather than trying to change them overnight, much easier to get a person to stick to a diet if you gradually change it to the way it should be. Overnight for many people will just end up with them dropping out as the change is too drastic. Last edited by Biker; 23-11-2004 at 05:20 PM.

23-11-2004, 05:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,402 Blog Entries: 1	I agree, but and there always is one, why not just change the carbs that they eat? Low glycimic carbs for starters. You can take in the same amount so the body wont even know the difference. Diet is work, training is fun. Let me quote one of your guys. "I would eat dog sh1t if biker told me too". I like that. Not the dog sh1t the dedication to you. Last edited by winger; 23-11-2004 at 06:03 PM.

23-11-2004, 06:20 PM	#41 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,762	i knew what u ment bro...sometimes its hard to pick up what people mean in words rather that facial and voice expressions to go with it... maybe we should link up webcams lol __________________ Affiliate of Bulk Supplements Direct Discount Code= BSD290 UKBFF southcoast 2008, O80kg Champion

23-11-2004, 02:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,402 Blog Entries: 1	I think the problem is diet.

23-11-2004, 03:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	what problem is that winger? I wasn't aware of any problems with my guys.

23-11-2004, 04:38 PM	#35 (permalink)
Cheater2K EFBB Winner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 5,656	nor me

23-11-2004, 04:45 PM	#36 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,402 Blog Entries: 1	Biker, did you tell your guys what to eat from the first day? Diet is key, thats all.

23-11-2004, 06:00 PM	#39 (permalink)
ONE SMART COOKIE cerca trova Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,020	Guys chill ok,dont want this locking do we?either that or I wont post anymore progress reports up here and nobody will get to know what I`ve done with shib end off. Biker I think in some unique way we could compare in that we are both doing something that gives readers the opertunity to see things from both sides of the fence,natural and gear users. For those using or thinking of using they can use your ideas/people as a bench mark to work from and learn about themselves and how they react to gear,and for those natural they can see what shib ha done and go with what he`s done and for those that aren`t sure what they want to do either way they have both examples to give them a better insight in what needs too be done on both sides of the fence. John I do have somebody over at the biohazard site that I`m helping that was like you high in the body fat area and so far this year(about 6-7months) he`s lost over 2 stone naturally,so thats another good example for people to compare for their own improvements. But I am going to say again"THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION"it is a great way for people to realy get to see both sides of the coin,so by all means ask question but no sh!t stirring,ok.

23-11-2004, 06:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,402 Blog Entries: 1	If I came across as sh1t stirring then I apoligize. I was just expressing myself.

23-11-2004, 08:38 PM	#43 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	I never took it as a competition. I am really interested in how all the guys do and look at the end. I would like to keep informed out of curiosity more than anything else. This is going to be very interesting to keep tabs on. I wish all the guys the best of luck and looks.

23-11-2004, 11:08 PM	#45 (permalink)
Shib Gym Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: the gym Posts: 279	Just wanted to say I am not treating this as a competition. I think it is going to be quite good for people to make comparisons though to see how natural or assisted training helps one to reach there goals. So lets all get along