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Old 22-10-2004, 08:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Jordan, although u may look very good in the pictures, i really dont think u need to put on anymore weight.
Its unhealthy eating too much protein as it can drastically effect the kidneys, it scares me even more knowing that you already eat 170g of protein per day, as this is far too much for the body to take, and whats worse is now your all telling him that he should be eating more than that.

Please dont raise your food intake, you look fantastic as you are.
LOL.. you do realise you're saying that on a bodybuilding website, right?
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Old 22-10-2004, 08:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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You've got a great base bro. Nice and lean. Definitely agree that you need more mass on you.
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Old 22-10-2004, 08:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Its unhealthy eating too much protein as it can drastically effect the kidneys, it scares me even more knowing that you already eat 170g of protein per day, as this is far too much for the body to take, and whats worse is now your all telling him that he should be eating more than that.
There is actually no scientific evidence whatsoever of kidney damage in normal healthy people with high protein diets.

It's one of the great bodybuilding myths perpetuated by the media.




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Old 22-10-2004, 09:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i think you look

pretty good mate very dry indeed, get the mass packed on, and get some more pics done.
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Old 23-10-2004, 06:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Wow, this guys is really lean.
Biker said 12% but I think it might be less than that.

As far as the diet is concerned. My opinion is that you need more whole food and less shakes. Meat has stuff in it like Zinc, (which is good for the immune system and testosterone production and healing of bones), Iron (which helps oxygen transfer in the blood), CLA (substance in beef fat that is a known anti-oxident and anti-cancer), among many other things.

Many cultures were raised on protein and fats like the Eskimos. Very little carbs and they did not suffer from kidney failure, heart desease, and NO cavities in their teeth, oh even scurvey either.

Stay away from the processed foods and hydrogenated oils like the plague. McDonnalds will kill you faster than anything.

Again, you look really good and eat some fruit in the morning.
As Biker said ballance your diet with proteins, fats and carbs (good ones).
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Old 25-10-2004, 06:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Damn ur lean bro..Whats ur body fat at.Add some mass and you'll look the biz.Good job for 19..
 
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Old 25-10-2004, 02:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thanks for your comments, last time I checked my body fat was around 12% but Im not sure how accurate it was, i could well be below that now, i would never really like to exceed 12%
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Old 28-10-2004, 03:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Jordan, although u may look very good in the pictures, i really dont think u need to put on anymore weight.
Its unhealthy eating too much protein as it can drastically effect the kidneys, it scares me even more knowing that you already eat 170g of protein per day, as this is far too much for the body to take, and whats worse is now your all telling him that he should be eating more than that.

Please dont raise your food intake, you look fantastic as you are.
Crap

If he wants to be huge thats his choice, u don't see older bodybuilders racing for kidney transplants do you?
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Old 28-10-2004, 03:21 PM   #24 (permalink)
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flex wheeler, tom prince just two recent ones with screwed kidneys but anyway thats a combination of gear EXTREME diets and supplementation
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Jordan, although u may look very good in the pictures, i really dont think u need to put on anymore weight.
Its unhealthy eating too much protein as it can drastically effect the kidneys, it scares me even more knowing that you already eat 170g of protein per day, as this is far too much for the body to take, and whats worse is now your all telling him that he should be eating more than that.

Please dont raise your food intake, you look fantastic as you are.
Susan....thanks for your input, its important for us as bb'ers to have such a knowlegable person reminding us that we are not only doing it all wrong, but also that we are ignorant to such an extreme degree that we will all harm ourselves.

Now you go and enjoy your macdonalds lunch....oh and remember to have a pack of smokes and a few glasses of wine too
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Old 29-10-2004, 10:19 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Jordan, although u may look very good in the pictures, i really dont think u need to put on anymore weight.
Its unhealthy eating too much protein as it can drastically effect the kidneys, it scares me even more knowing that you already eat 170g of protein per day, as this is far too much for the body to take, and whats worse is now your all telling him that he should be eating more than that.

Please dont raise your food intake, you look fantastic as you are.
there is absolutely no evidence to support that high protein diets are bad for ur kidneys IF you have healthy kidneys in the first place.

its pseudoscience cause high protein diets MIGHT cause increased ammonia in kidney damaged rats... i dont consider myself a rat.... neither do i have problems with my kidneys... countless bloodtests have proved it.

and 170gr of protein is toooooo little is my opinion.. especially for an ectomorph like Jordan. I eat over 320gr of protein a day and 85% of which comes from meat and eggs...

flex wheeler has been abusing drugs even before he started bodybuilding, nough said and tom princes kidneys where damaged by excessive chronic abuse of advil.....

Jordan u look lean and seperated.. but i think u need more mass (depending on ur goals really) and in my opinion ur diet needs alot of adjusting cause u look like a hardcore ectomorph. thats why u have a hard time putting on weight.

i do think that ur less than 10% bodyfat.. however.. do u drink alcohol???
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You're looking great bro. Id kill to be that cut.

By the way -you re from Hadfield right? isn't that where they film the League of Gentlemen?
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Old 22-11-2004, 11:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Jimmy, you are too funny.

Oh don't forget the single biggest cause of kidney failure is high blood pressure.
So much for the protein thing
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