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Old 13-05-2008, 03:56 PM   #46 (permalink)
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this made 4-5 wekks ago i no remember

You ahve a top-notch upper body mate, excellent work, good mass and shape, your legs look 100 X better from the front though, and do lack some slight size from your upper body.

Just out of interest, do you do stiff legged deadlifts at all?
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Old 13-05-2008, 04:00 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Very nice physique good upper lower balance.

I'm sure you back will look as good as the front in afew weeks.
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Old 13-05-2008, 04:09 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Second picture (later in thread) gives a better representation and a nice physique, well done

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It all depends on how the viewer wants to look at and critique the body in text, how you read their post and how you respond to that post
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Old 13-05-2008, 05:33 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Ok, looking at your new (old) pictures.

Your uperbody overpowers your lower, good chest, biceps are good, delts are ok.

Now things you need to work on.

You must work as hard on your legs as hard as you do your chest and biceps there behind and because your uperbody is that much further ahead it makes it stand out more.

There is a lack of abductor & hamstrings.

Your triceps are not on par with your biceps, this probably is a genetic thing but you could still work to balance it out.

Depends what level you are competeing at like i said before what level are you competeing at? first timer? intermediate? MR?

If you work hard for the next 6 months you could bring your weak points up to a much better standard for your december show. With your proposed cycle as well theres no reasion you couldnt grow into the show on that much medication.

So in summary:

GOOD: Biceps, Chest,
OK: Delts,
NEEDS WORK: quads (size), hamstring (size), abductors (size), calves (size). tricep (size).

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Old 13-05-2008, 08:23 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Thank you all really!
for the next 6 months i want to improve a lot!
the very pre contest starting in 8 september because after i'm in holiday.
therefore
June 14 i'm contest ifbb italian championship.
and i recovery my body until september e after i beginning the pre contest i will win the ludus maximum ifbb in december!
just a bit of relax, i'm very stressed out and tired, but hard as the stone!

keep the pumping and i'm stay hard!
or go big or go home!

thanks a lot for all!
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Old 13-05-2008, 08:31 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Ok, looking at your new (old) pictures.

Your uperbody overpowers your lower, good chest, biceps are good, delts are ok.

Now things you need to work on.

You must work as hard on your legs as hard as you do your chest and biceps there behind and because your uperbody is that much further ahead it makes it stand out more.

There is a lack of abductor & hamstrings.

Your triceps are not on par with your biceps, this probably is a genetic thing but you could still work to balance it out.

Depends what level you are competeing at like i said before what level are you competeing at? first timer? intermediate? MR?

If you work hard for the next 6 months you could bring your weak points up to a much better standard for your december show. With your proposed cycle as well theres no reasion you couldnt grow into the show on that much medication.

So in summary:

GOOD: Biceps, Chest,
OK: Delts,
NEEDS WORK: quads (size), hamstring (size), abductors (size), calves (size). tricep (size).

great advice bro!
when i start to my pre contest i create in this forum my diary!
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Old 13-05-2008, 08:38 PM   #52 (permalink)
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well i think we can can all agree the first pic didnt do his legs any justice!! but now u can see his legs arent that far behind, ive definatley seen a lot worse on stage. looking good buddy come 5 weeks ure look pretty sharp good job. Oh and december dont have a z in it
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Old 13-05-2008, 08:57 PM   #53 (permalink)
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great advice bro!
when i start to my pre contest i create in this forum my diary!
Thats a great idea - It would be intresting.

They sound like quite big shows, is there any information on the past show?

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Old 13-05-2008, 09:00 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I think that you look great mate. Wogi stay the fcuk away from my journal! In fact... go on then have a look ,i'm sure your opinion will help.
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Old 13-05-2008, 09:03 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Ok, looking at your new (old) pictures.

Your uperbody overpowers your lower, good chest, biceps are good, delts are ok.

Now things you need to work on.

You must work as hard on your legs as hard as you do your chest and biceps there behind and because your uperbody is that much further ahead it makes it stand out more.

There is a lack of abductor & hamstrings.

Your triceps are not on par with your biceps, this probably is a genetic thing but you could still work to balance it out.

Depends what level you are competeing at like i said before what level are you competeing at? first timer? intermediate? MR?

If you work hard for the next 6 months you could bring your weak points up to a much better standard for your december show. With your proposed cycle as well theres no reasion you couldnt grow into the show on that much medication.

So in summary:

GOOD: Biceps, Chest,
OK: Delts,
NEEDS WORK: quads (size), hamstring (size), abductors (size), calves (size). tricep (size).

That's a much better post. Well redeemed, as you came across like a total nob-jockey with your first reply. This is much more helpful to the original poster.
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Old 13-05-2008, 09:07 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Thats a great idea - It would be intresting.

They sound like quite big shows, is there any information on the past show?

Buona fortuna & Stai attento.
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Old 13-05-2008, 10:20 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Fcuk me Wogi!!! if nothing else you got this dudes thread some serious attention.

I totally agree with subjective critique and welcome it myself but words in text can be really taken the wrong way (as i have found out many times)

Second pic really shows some decent mass there.

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I dont find Wogi offensive generally, and has some solid advice to offer. But how people say things can get lost in black and white text and this always leads to fights. Person (A) meant it as a joke and person (B) takes it as a direct attack. The one flaw our new age media has.

But I think coming out and attacking Wogi like some have only shows your own flaws and is not needed. We all here to help each other and not fight.

I do find the pants he wears offensive but what can you do!

body-evolution -> looking solid mate, hope everything goes well for you. You seem to know what you doing and looking great. Hope you make this your new home as I'm sure you got some advice to share on how you got this far. Cant be all those pizza's and pasta you italians eat!!
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Hey Fellas.

The first pics you put up body-evo showed a good physique. The second set shown a true competitive physique. You are in great shape my friend. Hey guys. as i found out Wogi does have some harsh critiscm sometimes but thats just who he is. He is Blunt and honest and types what he truely thinks. all said and done Wogi makes the effort to advise on what he knows and his heart is in the right place. Any one willing to give time to some ones thread should be allowed to voice what they think both good and bad. thats what the forum is for. As it has become evidential in the end everything is settled and im sure body evo will go away that little bit wiser thanks to Wogi and all who have discussed on the forum.
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