DB

LOL come on guys we all know Wogi doesnt sugarcoat anything and to be honest u want some tough love sometimes.. better than someone trying to nosh u off when u really look w@nk hey??!!

nice back shot dude.. lighting isnt doing you any favours tho .. lower back looks to be holdong some fat still but 5 weeks out is a pretty long time to pull that in! u should be fine!

take some pics outside in natural light then it tells a truer story...

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Littleluke

Wogi serious think a bit more before you type as you seem to be offending alot of people. You are entitled to an opinion for example saying he needs to work more on certain bodyparts by saying you only train... etc is just being spiteful and it's not called for.

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wogihao

Tisk tisk, I will ask again, why is there so much hate for not nut hugging? Im sorry but whats the point of a forum if the only view you can hold is the one of the majory?

Why is there enforced mutual masterbation over peoples pictures It makes no sence how can people improve if all there being told is there great?

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lol

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Littleluke

Do you not see the difference from constructively critisising and the childish way you critisise. You're pi$$in everyone off and certainly getting on my nerves now. The guy looks 10 times better than you fella.

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leeston

eeeekkk, wheres my tin hat - its going off!

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wogihao

Lol, you seem to not like my non metro nature, I cannot blame you. You probably got brought up on the same bull**** as many of the younger lads "everyones a winner - im ok your ok" thing.

I liked your video by the way luke..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

You going to do one about this guy as well?

Look luke its part of my nature to be blunt with people, I cant help the Welsh part of my nature You see Im a bastard on a Genetic level.

But I hope that what people can see is when I say someones good, or somthings good I realy meen it. and that When I say somthings wrong in my opinion I can give some advice.

I just cant stand falce prase, I would want people to be honest with me in the same way. Its the best way to make progress.

trickymicky69

This quote in itself is a paradox as what you preach you are guilty of yourself. The next quote will be "my dad is bigger than your dad"
Wogi has apologised for being slightly over zealoused with his comments and we should leave it there.
This thread isnt about wogis development by the way.
What are you saying luke?
That you cant comment on the pics unless you are the next Mr O?
Lets keep it all light hearted and objective.

wogihao

Ah come on man you say that line every time, it dosent matter who i comment on.

We had this same coversation about numerious members after I gave what was in my opinion ojbective advice.

We cant give a true assement on that untill he posts some more pictures anway, the lighting is bad and the pictures arnt the best.

Even if he was bigger in the chest/arms what does it do to invalidate what I have previously said though?

leeston

Thanks to Wogi this is anything but!!!

I dont think Wogi quite understands. There are ways of putting accross ones view without being disrespectful. Your upbringing and geography bear no relevance. Pure constructive critiscm is what we are after.

Now, back on thread!!!!

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willsey4

Agreed, lets drop the banter and wait for some more pics, stats etc so people can advise accordingly.

He started the thread but has only posted once.

Wogi, I think you have scared him off! lol

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wogihao

His stats are in this thread..

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...-week-out.html

leeston

wogi - i agree with you in one respect - thats a veritable pharmacy of chemicals!!!

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barcz69

i think anyone who puts the effort in to train and take the sacrifices that as bodybuilders we take should be praised and not belittled on a public forum. As bodybuilders we all no how hard it actually is to train and eat to our best and should respect that.

Magic Torch

I think the guy looks good (from the pictures posted), Nice delts on the back pose as well as the stated arms and chest. Decent taper too....

I think the guy was more after comments on his condition not where he needs more mass as he is unlikely to achieve that in the 5 weeks before his show. I think that is more the point. He wants help on how to come in correctly in 5 weeks.

Wogi I think you know your first post was a little off if your honest no? If you had posted what you did in the third or forth post (where you were being constructive) then I'm sure the guy would have accepted that, but as he is a new member and this is an online community, perhaps a little more tact with the new members would be better served?

Personally I like your approach I think its a decent change - but I know what your like, others could take offence? Fair point?

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