(davetherave) the road is long - Page 3 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Lost Soul · 20-04-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisj22

Your not Toxic Toffee are you? But using a different username?

Very logical person. Remind me of him.

No, my name is dirk and after searching for the above, no!

davetherave · 20-04-2008, 03:24 PM

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I cannot believe you have spent 4 years training and made what is in effect a pretty poor effort if you are going to be honest in the fact that looks wise its not great and the lifts are ok, but not one of an enthusiats. I believe in constructive criticism but i also believe in being honest and open and if you are going to be the latter than you will agree its not the best of efforts and only you can pinpoint why that is.

again, fair points raised, id say it is a combination of......
- poor diet
- eating too much
- working the doors
- initially (maybe up until 1 and a half years ago) a lack of knowledge on diet and training

the doors brings the problem of wanting to be bigger, so achieving this fast has led to fat gain (a lot of) as it is a lot easier as a job if you are stood there looking 17/18 stone (in clothes) then 14/15 but i was at my most confident last summer when i sat at 13 stone as was boxing training

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Aim for small steps and tighten every spect of what you are doing.

my initial aim is to get to what is underneath, which means sub 13 stone, get to what is really there and then assess the situation and see where i go from there (i cant answer the question until i get there

)

i need to sort my delt out, ive been putting it off and off, this may mean that i can only do cardio for a while (depending on what the injury is)
i will plan around this

davetherave · 20-04-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisj22 View Post
Your not Toxic Toffee are you? But using a different username?

Very logical person. Remind me of him.

no he is not tt as my current routine is a tt routine ;)

Captain Hero · 20-04-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisj22

Your not Toxic Toffee are you? But using a different username?

Very logical person. Remind me of him.

Toxic Toffee is already on this board, he did start a training log.

I liked lost souls posting, very good reading

chrisj22 · 20-04-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Hero

Toxic Toffee is already on this board, he did start a training log.

I liked lost souls posting, very good reading

Yeah, I know TT is already a member, that's why I asked if Lost Soul was as TT hasn't been on this board since November...

LS posts very similar to TT. Very good indeed.

Captain Hero · 20-04-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisj22

Yeah, I know TT is already a member, that's why I asked if Lost Soul was as TT hasn't been on this board since November...

LS posts very similar to TT. Very good indeed.

aye mate ;) LOL at "my love is torn between Robsta and TH&S"

:love:

davetherave · 20-04-2008, 04:08 PM

i know why tt has not been on the board since november but don't really want to put why as it is a long story ;)

im inrigued as to why my calves were describd as an area of strength though, they really do not seem like it :(

chrisj22 · 20-04-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Hero

aye mate ;) LOL at "my love is torn between Robsta and TH&S"

:love:

You like?

Check it out now :love:

Captain Hero · 20-04-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by davetherave

i know why tt has not been on the board since november but don't really want to put why as it is a long story ;)

im inrigued as to why my calves were describd as an area of strength though, they really do not seem like it :(

I have an idea why, though I dont know him so i Could be wrong.

From what I have heard he is a knowledgeable guy and was getting hassled by people on another board for advice?

Captain Hero · 20-04-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisj22

You like?

Check it out now :love:

LOL!

davetherave · 20-04-2008, 07:02 PM

back and biceps

barbell deadlifts (reverse grip)
90kg 1x6
102kg 1x10
120kg 1x10
132kg 1x6

chin ups (underhand)
bodyweight 1x10,1x10,1x7

barbell bent over rows (overhand grip)
44kg 1x10
52kg 1x10
60kg 1x10
70kg 1x10

zbar curls (lift elbows at top, curl from wrists, elbows in)
31kg 1x10
37kg 1x10
43kg 1x6
33kg 1x10

* i did the chins as i am looking at methods wherby i can do the other back exercise without being in crippling pain with my delt, i have given up on overhand grip pulls, so i will give the underhand chins a go for a bit
* i am considering dropping all of the reps to 6 as opposed to 10's so that i can start getting some sort of respectable weights up

davetherave · 21-04-2008, 09:39 PM

right tonight was a little bit of different cardio, which helped to confirm how bad my shape has become, i have not done any boxing type training since early august so not a great surprise (especially if you add in the 2 stone gain)

a) skipping, well jumping on the spot on two and one legs - i did 6 and a half minutes with a few 20 second rests, i was averaging 45/50 seconds and then a 20 minute rest, so work needed

b) ton-ups, i picked burpees, press ups and star jumps and did twenty of each
c) shadow boxing - various combos (with mouth guard and gloves)
60 left jabs, 60 right jabs, 60 left right, some blocks, some ducks and combos, etc

all of this was a rather pathetic 25 minutes including stretching so i went for a litle jog afterwards as well, upped the pace on the way back - i will try and put the distance up in a bit, i think it was about a mile though

davetherave · 22-04-2008, 10:33 PM

right i did a shoulder session tonight which saw a pb for seated db presses (10 reps instead of the 8 last week) and bb shrugs

i ditched standing military presses though as i sucessfully managed to pull BOTH of my calves lastnight which means it will take me 10 minutes to get into the kitchen to get my book with the weights in it

ive been walking like a special head all day

winger · 23-04-2008, 01:49 AM

Dave, I like your routine. I also like the way you posted up some pics.

In my opinion diet is #1 when it comes to being lean. Cardio only makes a smaller version of yourself, unless it is a tabata style of cardio.

Con · 23-04-2008, 02:20 AM

OMG i have a gold chain like that well done mate you have taste lol!

20-04-2008, 04:08 PM	#37 (permalink)
davetherave evad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 1,307	Re: (davetherave) the road is long i know why tt has not been on the board since november but don't really want to put why as it is a long story ;) im inrigued as to why my calves were describd as an area of strength though, they really do not seem like it :( __________________ my journal - come in and watch me get thin, all help is appriciated - *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Moderator on To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PB's Deadlift 140kg 1x5 <(09/06/08) Squat 122kg 1x5 <(12/07/08) Bench 108kg 1x5 (14/07/08) Incl bench 88kg 1x8 (14/07/08) Military Press 72.5kg 1x6 <(28/06/08) Shrugs 160kg 1x8 Seated db press 33.2kg for 8 dips b/w + 17kg 1x8 (14/07/08)

20-04-2008, 07:02 PM	#41 (permalink)
davetherave evad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 1,307	Re: (davetherave) the road is long back and biceps barbell deadlifts (reverse grip) 90kg 1x6 102kg 1x10 120kg 1x10 132kg 1x6 chin ups (underhand) bodyweight 1x10,1x10,1x7 barbell bent over rows (overhand grip) 44kg 1x10 52kg 1x10 60kg 1x10 70kg 1x10 zbar curls (lift elbows at top, curl from wrists, elbows in) 31kg 1x10 37kg 1x10 43kg 1x6 33kg 1x10 * i did the chins as i am looking at methods wherby i can do the other back exercise without being in crippling pain with my delt, i have given up on overhand grip pulls, so i will give the underhand chins a go for a bit * i am considering dropping all of the reps to 6 as opposed to 10's so that i can start getting some sort of respectable weights up __________________ my journal - come in and watch me get thin, all help is appriciated - *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Moderator on To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PB's Deadlift 140kg 1x5 <(09/06/08) Squat 122kg 1x5 <(12/07/08) Bench 108kg 1x5 (14/07/08) Incl bench 88kg 1x8 (14/07/08) Military Press 72.5kg 1x6 <(28/06/08) Shrugs 160kg 1x8 Seated db press 33.2kg for 8 dips b/w + 17kg 1x8 (14/07/08)

21-04-2008, 09:39 PM	#42 (permalink)
davetherave evad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 1,307	Re: (davetherave) the road is long right tonight was a little bit of different cardio, which helped to confirm how bad my shape has become, i have not done any boxing type training since early august so not a great surprise (especially if you add in the 2 stone gain) a) skipping, well jumping on the spot on two and one legs - i did 6 and a half minutes with a few 20 second rests, i was averaging 45/50 seconds and then a 20 minute rest, so work needed b) ton-ups, i picked burpees, press ups and star jumps and did twenty of each c) shadow boxing - various combos (with mouth guard and gloves) 60 left jabs, 60 right jabs, 60 left right, some blocks, some ducks and combos, etc all of this was a rather pathetic 25 minutes including stretching so i went for a litle jog afterwards as well, upped the pace on the way back - i will try and put the distance up in a bit, i think it was about a mile though __________________ my journal - come in and watch me get thin, all help is appriciated - *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Moderator on To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PB's Deadlift 140kg 1x5 <(09/06/08) Squat 122kg 1x5 <(12/07/08) Bench 108kg 1x5 (14/07/08) Incl bench 88kg 1x8 (14/07/08) Military Press 72.5kg 1x6 <(28/06/08) Shrugs 160kg 1x8 Seated db press 33.2kg for 8 dips b/w + 17kg 1x8 (14/07/08)

22-04-2008, 10:33 PM	#43 (permalink)
davetherave evad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 1,307	Re: (davetherave) the road is long right i did a shoulder session tonight which saw a pb for seated db presses (10 reps instead of the 8 last week) and bb shrugs i ditched standing military presses though as i sucessfully managed to pull BOTH of my calves lastnight which means it will take me 10 minutes to get into the kitchen to get my book with the weights in it ive been walking like a special head all day __________________ my journal - come in and watch me get thin, all help is appriciated - *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Moderator on To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PB's Deadlift 140kg 1x5 <(09/06/08) Squat 122kg 1x5 <(12/07/08) Bench 108kg 1x5 (14/07/08) Incl bench 88kg 1x8 (14/07/08) Military Press 72.5kg 1x6 <(28/06/08) Shrugs 160kg 1x8 Seated db press 33.2kg for 8 dips b/w + 17kg 1x8 (14/07/08)

23-04-2008, 01:49 AM	#44 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,216 Blog Entries: 1	Re: (davetherave) the road is long Dave, I like your routine. I also like the way you posted up some pics. In my opinion diet is #1 when it comes to being lean. Cardio only makes a smaller version of yourself, unless it is a tabata style of cardio. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23-04-2008, 02:20 AM	#45 (permalink)
Con Superman Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,551	Re: (davetherave) the road is long OMG i have a gold chain like that well done mate you have taste lol!